I am skim-coating over a painted swirl plaster texture. The texture is very difficult to scrape off. I want to apply plasterweld and then finish coat plaster directly over that with a trowel and hawk. The wall is pretty sound, little cracking. Does this seem like and adequate plan? Do I need to add anything to the plaster other than water? Can/should I add compound to retard the setting?
I want a hard surface that does not require much sanding. I would like to apply with a trowel rather than a knife.
Are there any other specific solutions you might reccomend?
Thanks a bunch
Paul Philadelphia
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Welcome to the forum Paul.
See if you can do a search for D-mix.
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Thanks Blue.
That was just... what the doctor order. Do you try it yet?
YCf
I don't see it in your post, and it may be a given, but just to make sure, you'll need to add some lime putty to you plaster (in addition to the water).
The lime acts as a plasticizer, so you can trowel it out smooth.
Also, a setting retarder (as well as an accelerator) are available at your plaster supply store.
My suggestion is start in small areas, and don't bite off more than you can chew. It does give your shoulder and arm muscles a good workout if it's not something you do everyday.
Good luck!
Pete Duffy, Handyman
I don't know that I have access to lime putty. What would happen if I used joint compund instead?Paul
Do not use joint compound, it is very soft when dry. I would recommend that you find a local distributor for veneer plaster products and use that instead. USG and others make it. Plaster is not abraded like dry wall products. It is toweled smooth instead, or textured with a float. There are good books on plaster if you are interested.
Plaster is intended to be used as a thin veneer and should not be used to fill in valleys resulting from the existing wall condition.
a) First prime the surfaces to be plastered with an alkyd (oil) primer. It works better than Plasterweld, in regards to the plaster application, since PW has a tendancy to liquify during plaster application, creating a slippage while trowelling.
b) You should plaster using a 2 layer system. The first layer is referred to as a brown-coat. This fills in the valleys and creates a perfect substrate for the finish plaster layer. USG manufactures a version called Imperial Browncoat Plaster.
c) After the browncaot has set - but not dried - apply the finish coat of veneer plaster. My recommendation is to use USG's Diamond Coat. It does NOT require lime.
http://usg.com:80/navigate.do?resource=/USG_Marketing_Content/usg.com/web_files/products/prod_details/USG_DIAMOND_Brand_Veneer_Basecoat_Plaster.htm
Both the browncoat and diamond coat are to be mixed using a drill at 400rpms. Mixing too fast will decrease working time. Mixing by hand is futile as the plaster will not disperse enough in the water.
You cannot/ should not sand plaster. It is a 2 person job. It requires a trowel ratther than a knife, and you must strike/ smooth it before it gets too hard. Splashing it with water while polishing or smoothing is done using a wide brush.
Hope this helps.
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I am skim-coating over a painted swirl plaster texture. The texture is very difficult to scrape off. I want to apply plasterweld and then finish coat plaster directly over that with a trowel and hawk.
Some times the plaster weld makes the paint soft and you can have a big problem...
The wall is pretty sound, little cracking. Does this seem like and adequate plan? Do I need to add anything to the plaster other than water? Can/should I add compound to retard the setting?
What plaster? and what compound?
I want a hard surface that does not require much sanding. I would like to apply with a trowel rather than a knife.
What you like and what you can is two different things. I can tell by your post that you never use plaster before.
Are there any other specific solutions you might reccomend?
A. The D- Mix
B. Skim coat with Joint compound.
C. 1/4" drywall
D. Hire a pro.
Good luck.
YCF Dino