The cabinets that the client is looking at will be delivered from the custom shop in raw wood…not finished at all. About 20 lf of uppers and base cabs. Paint grade. What should I expect to pay a painter to finish them?
Do it right, or do it twice.
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More then a buck, but less then $100,000.00.
Seriously, it all depends on what you want painted on the cabinets and who is doing the painting.
C'mon Joe, that's not an answer. Assuming an average to better finish, clear coated inside, make a few asumptions and throw out a number.
Do it right, or do it twice.
Start at about 30 bucks a lineal foot..
ELCID72,
Are you asking to paint the cabinet like “white”? I really couldn’t tell you because there is such a vast difference in local regions that pricing sometimes looks odd.
I’ve seen a room full of kitchen cabinets cost $90,000.00 simply because of the painted finish on them. These cabinets where made of poplar. For me as a guy who does his own finishing I could see charging anywhere from $150.00 pf at the low end and between $500.00- $750.00 on the high end.
Already I’m about 5x higher then Larry is on the starting number ;-). View Image
I see that...obviously Larry gets the job...lowest cost etc...
Well, for rough numbering purposes, I'll expect $100-$150/lf, which would be $2,000-$3,000 for the set...about what I had ignorantly guesstimated.Do it right, or do it twice.
I’ve seen a room full of kitchen cabinets cost $90,000.00 simply because of the painted finish on them
Explain please: what would they have been without having been painted?
I should like to add that it would be immensely easier to have painted interiors before assembly. Also: are we talking about painting hung doors and drawers?
Get out your Fuji spray gun and line em up in the garage and charge them what your time is worth.
Primer and two coats......hmmmmm...a grand works for me...and that includes taking off and reinstalling the hardware as well as the paint.
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andy
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Have you considered having the cabinets delivered to a paint shop to be painted there, before installation? You might get a better job in their controlled environment than in someone's house after installation. It would be cheaper too.
Paint grade joinery takes a lot finer prep work than stain grade. Does everyone involved in the job know that ahead of time? Hate to see you hire the cheapest painter, who paints over imadequately prepared (for paint) cabinetry, then the customer get disappointed with the end results, which could reflect on you, depending on what your role in all this is.
The older I get, the less comfortable I am relying on other people to hold up their end. To the point that it's a pleasant surprise when people do.
Dude have you considered spraying them with white poly. Ive recently used it on some paint grade cab doors. They came out great and it is more durable then paint. Check out Joes site I got some pics of the doors. Just use one/two coats of white poly under coat and two coats of white poly. Sanded inbetween coats.
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"Dude have you considered spraying them with white poly."
Ron,
By that, do you mean white catalyzed polyester? Something I use at work as a barrier sealer. If so, I'm surprised, as it is not that commonly used.
Jon
I mean white poly eurathane. http://www.compliantspraysystems.com
this is the site for enduro coat.
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most cabinets (in my area anyway) are sprayed with a pre-cat lacquer. dries in about 5 minutes, which might work well in your situation because anything that takes too long to dry might pick up dust from the air during its extended dry time. just pick your sheen (pre-cat 60 is what I get) and give it one quick coat to raise the grain, give it a good sanding with 220 then a second and third heavier coat to build the body.
It would also be VERY wise to finish them before the install. I can't even imagine going through that headache.
I roughly figure from 20% to 40% of the total cost of the cabinets, depending upon the complexity of the finish. Toward the low end for pretty plain finishes and right up there for faux, antiqued, shaded. matched, or multi colored finishes. Buyers of lower end cabinetry usually expect a little less from the finisher so the ratios still hold pretty true.
unles your painter is lurking around here somewhere....
I'd say Joe's "guess" is right on the money......so to speak.
Me .....I'd call my cab maker to ask what he'd charge to spary someone elses work....OK..I really wouldn't....he have built them ..and built the cost of finishing into the price.
I wouldn't willingly install site-painted/finished cabs .....wouldn't my recommendation....there's something to be said for a spray booth......
Jeff
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ELCID
Is this a Texas thing?
I work here in Austin and have built three sets of kitchen cabs for the guy I work for, all of them we did the finish at the house.
When I ask about doing it in the shop all I get is that we got to get them installed. In one regard I dont mind because I dont end up having to do the finish, something I dont mind.
By the way, I was down in your neck of the woods today, worked on Chuys out on 281 and 1604.
Doug
Well, the shop will pre-finish the cabs, but only in one of 4-6 standard stains. If you want a different stain, or any paint, too bad. So much for a custom shop.
Did you ever go to the first Chuy's here? It was in a strip center in Alamo Hts on Broadway just inside 410. Didn't last long, there was grossly inadequate parking. But the location fit their style. I have not been to the new one, but the location atmosphere is no better than a McD's.
Do it right, or do it twice.
ELCID
The company that I work for does a lot of the work on the Chuys, the one out on 1604 & 281 is the only one I have been to in San Antonio. I live in San Marcos and 99% of my work is in Austin.
I have seen other contractors down here finish on site, not saying its the wrong way, just that I'm not used to doing it that way.
Doug