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Flooring from the 30’s-Red or white oak?

Accelar | Posted in General Discussion on August 30, 2008 08:43am

I can usually tell the difference but not this time.
This is tongue and groove oak flooring, and, best I can tell, was installed in 1939, about 7/8″ thick, 2.5″ wide and pieces up to 16 feet in length. Dead straight.

I need some white oak for boat building – but red oak would be a disaster. This is quite pale, but… I’m not positive.

Anyone with a good – definitive – way to tell the difference ?
Many thanks,
Gavin

Gavin Pitchford

“Sail fast – live slow” (build even slower)


Edited 8/30/2008 1:46 pm ET by Accelar

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    Sphere | Aug 30, 2008 08:49pm | #1

    Look closely at the endgrain if it is VERY open pored, it's red. If the pores are plugged, it's the tyloses, and is white. Take a short pc. say 4" long and dip the end in a glass of water, and blow on the other end..bubbles in the water=red.

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    1. Accelar | Aug 30, 2008 09:22pm | #2

      Awesome. Totally white. Thanks!
      Any idea whether steam bending white oak that's 70 years old presents issues ?Thanks again.
      Gavin
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        Sphere | Aug 30, 2008 09:35pm | #3

        It depends. Oak is the opposite of Coniferous woods when it comes to slow growth vs. fast growth. Oaks in general ben better when fast grown, due to the width of the "summer" or more porus parts. When slow grown, it gets "brash" and fractures more easily, due in part to the close proximty of the denser "late, or winter" wood.

        Choose pcs. that have wide rings, not closely spaced.

        Anyway, just being that old, it may have "set" in a stable way, that with such drying time, may make it brittle. Just steam longer than you expect maybe.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

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        down and people go up and down with

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    2. JeffinPA | Aug 30, 2008 10:16pm | #4

      Ok, thats cool!

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        Sphere | Aug 30, 2008 10:32pm | #5

        Thats why WO is used for casks and kegs, it's watertight. Most else will leak. Besides the flavor the tannins impart in whisky, and the charred interior.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

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        They kill Prophets, for Profits.

         

        The world of people goes up and

        down and people go up and down with

        their world; warriors have no business

        following the ups and downs of their

        fellow men.

        1. JeffinPA | Aug 30, 2008 10:48pm | #6

          Thanks for the extra info.  I was trying to figure out how I would remember how to test between white and red, and for some sick reason, when you relate it to alchohol, it all becomes clearer to me.

           

          Tee, hee, hee

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    Jeff_Clarke | Aug 31, 2008 06:10am | #7

    If you can get a piece up, back then it was quite often stamped on the backside with the source and sometimes the species ...

    Jeff

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