Anyone use this product yet (Certainteed)? I read a JLC article and am intrigued – what will they think of next?! I wonder if the 8 inch depth limitation is a huge drawback? Also, it is available in 4″ and 6″ – who in the world builds footers that thin? Is it code anywhere?
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If you'll leave the text size standard like the rest of us, I could read that.
yes, I have used it and like it in certain applications.It does take more time to set up but saves time stripping forms.
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The type looked so bold on my screen that I was sure I had done something wrong, so I tried to make it 'better' - sorry 'bout that.
So, the product worked as advertised, eh? I think I'll give it a try. Did you use the 8inchers and raise them and backfill or put 'em on top of a 4 inch trench? No way my local code official is gonna let me pour 8 inch footers...Looks good from my house....
Like Piffen, I have used them.
My footings are 10", and I used the 8" form. Just held it up 2", draped the soil separator cloth down the side, and added gravel about halfway up the form.
My inspector had never seen the product before, but he really like it.
DW and I formed about 180' of 27" x 10" footing in a day. The light weight of the forms meant I didn't have to hump a bunch of 2x10s around all day.
Dave
Very good news, DR - I want to keep the "Cop without a gun" happy. Many thanks for that idea on the soil separator cloth, too. Just to make sure I'm with ya, though, you mean ordinary filter fabric, landscape cloth, etc. - right? - and not the stuff offered by the manufacturer that apparently can be ordered already attached to the forms.... Looks good from my house....
Filter fabric = soil separator cloth.
Buy it as filter fabric at a building supply around here and pay more for it than "soil separator" at a irrigation or septic system supply house. Almost the same stuff, but the separator fabric seems like it is lighter. I figure if it keeps the dirt or fill out of the rock in a lateral field, it should do the same for for the drain tile forms.
Piffen posted a picture of one of his jobs using form a drain a year or two ago. IIRC he had his filter fabric in place in the photos. Looked like he made a taco with it, with the rock being the filling. Maybe he will post it again for you or can give you the link to that discussion.
Dave
I'll assumethat they are in one of the threads Boss linked unless OP says different
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Thanks for the clue on soil separator vs. filter fabric price. Every little bit helps.
I did a search on Piffen's pics, came up with a lot of good threads (his depth&breadth of knowledge is amazing), but no formadrain-type info. I won't bother him - especially because your description of the burrito is very clear...thanks again!Looks good from my house....
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There are 2 foundation guys around here that used the Form-A-Drain stuff. Having seen a lot of the stuff put in, I think a lot of it. The first thing I've always heard about it is that it will crush when you backfill. But I've never heard of anyone that's actually happened to. There have been a couple of threads on this over the years. But God knows if you can find them with the search function. (-:
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Thanks Boss - and I feel a bit vindicated on my archive search, too. When I came up with nothing, I figured the product was too new....
To All: Any old thread out there on this stuff? Thx.Looks good from my house....
I tried searching about 20 different ways, and finally got some hits:http://forums.taunton.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=tp-breaktime&msg=14576.1http://forums.taunton.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=tp-breaktime&msg=12404.1http://forums.taunton.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=tp-breaktime&msg=5992.1&http://forums.taunton.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=tp-breaktime&msg=31352.1http://forums.taunton.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=tp-breaktime&msg=42970.1http://forums.taunton.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=tp-breaktime&msg=37906.1http://forums.taunton.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=tp-breaktime&msg=58741.1http://www.formadrain.com/
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Wow, Boss - thanks very much! Great effort! I was just about to hit the hay (it's after midnight here), but now I want to run through those links or I'll never get to sleep wondering what's in 'em....Looks good from my house....
Boss -
Unless you are converting sewer pipes for your drains, I think the link you want for Form-a-Drain is:
http://www.certainteed.com/certainteed/undefined/PipeFoundation
This site gives some pricing, although the shipping to the left coast appears a little steep...:
http://www.korit.com/shop/formadrain.htm
(Your mind must have wondered over to a couple of other things...)
Edited 11/4/2005 1:26 pm ET by CaseyR
I just did a search and posted links that had "Form-A-Drain" in them. I didn't check each one for content.
Real generosity is doing something nice for someone who'll never find out about it
Yeah, the search function says to use copper pipe instead !
Greg
If the operator would crush the formadrains, he would crush schedule 40 too.
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I've rarely seen footers deeper than 8" in residential. You might not be able to use them.
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We use form a drain all the time, laying our own block for small additions. My poured wall sub uses it on all our basements that he does. I really like it but is a little expensive untill you back out the time and material savings from pulling, cleaning and storing forms, buying pcv and installing it.
Biggest benifit is that the footer tile is exactly where you need it. It wont wash up when backfilling or sink into mud. Another thing that I like is the ability to install basement floor drains wherever I want and I just have to run pvc to the nearest (inside of course)form a drain tile.
Roger
Don't change the font size it's a serious crime! (People need to chill out...)