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   Piffin | Oct 23, 2006 05:46am | #1

   bump to others more into frming

   But meantime, what pitch and how much overhang?

    

    

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   blue_eyed_devil | Oct 23, 2006 07:42am | #2

   Do you have some plans or pics of what you are trying to achieve. There are quite a few different looks and approachs to this topic.

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   brocknbrie | Oct 25, 2006 03:17am | #3

   Thanks for the reply B.E.D...I don't have any softcopies of what I am after..just magazine photos.

   Over a long span I have some good framing experience but never with a gable return. I know there are sveral approaches especially considering pitch etc. What I want is a visual confirmation that my intended approach is adequate.

    

    

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   Framer | Oct 25, 2006 03:33am | #4

   Here are a couple examples of a hip and gable return. One drawing has the hip come to a point under the rake with the return facsia flush to the rake. The other side, the hip has a small level ridge.The other drawing shows the returns where the return overhang is bigger then the rake and the rake sits on top of the shingles.Hope this helps.Joe Carola

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   Framer | Oct 25, 2006 03:39am | #5

   Here's a couple pics of 4' hip returns with copper roofs I framed.Joe Carola

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   brocknbrie | Nov 04, 2006 02:08pm | #6

   Thanks Joe..I had my approach confirmed by a foreman, but your pictures also help.

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   EricPaulson | Nov 04, 2006 02:48pm | #7

   Wow! Keen work Joe. I just got done going through the posts about framing a hip over an angle bay.

   In this pic, I would like to see the returns 'joined' so to speak so that they run all the way across the gable thus providing some protection to the windows and doors.

   If that were the case, is there a name for that element?

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   Stilletto | Nov 04, 2006 02:55pm | #8

   Eyebrow? 

   Thats what I call them.   

    

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   Framer | Nov 04, 2006 03:13pm | #9

   Thanks Eric. I just call them full returns.Here's a couple pics of a house I did I framed,sided and trimmed with full returns.Joe Carola

   
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   EricPaulson | Nov 04, 2006 03:42pm | #10

   Very nice Joe.

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   RRooster | Nov 05, 2006 08:36pm | #11

   DAMN you do nice work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Capital NICE.

     

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   Framer | Nov 05, 2006 08:56pm | #13

   Thank You very much.
   Joe Carola

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   alrightythen | Nov 05, 2006 08:42pm | #12

   nice Joe...

   do you do the trim as well or stick to your names sake?

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   Framer | Nov 05, 2006 09:07pm | #14

   Thank You.Some jobs I do just the framing and some jobs I'll do the framing and exterior trim and some I'll also do the trim and siding. That job I did everything.That job there the Homeowner didn't want any trim under the gable overhangs, so every piece of siding was cut perfect to fit and butt up against the soffit.Also the trim around the windows I made my own back band out of 2x cedar.Here's a shot of one side.Joe Carola

   
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   alrightythen | Nov 05, 2006 09:11pm | #15

    I like it, very nice...you work alone when trimming or with  help? what kida of time for a job like that?

   did you trim the other one as well?

   also...how did you mate the rake fascia to the horizontal fascia. or does it simply rest on it where they meet.

   Edited 11/5/2006 1:14 pm ET by alrightythen

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   DougU | Nov 06, 2006 04:17am | #16

   Joe

   Beautiful work! Very classy.

   I've heard those returns called birds nests because some of the ones on a historic community where I live do the returns with a flat sort of roof on them which obviously lends itself to birds and their nests. This is an old German community so it might be something they brought over from the old country.

   Doug