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Next year, I’m planning on having a detached 2 story garage/workshop built on my land (NE Ohio).
Wonder if y’all could give me a ball park range for the items listed below( materials & labor), based on experienced, high quality workmanship. I won’t be looking for the lowest price tag, but high quality.
Detached 2 story 2 car garage/workshop
1. 20′ x 24′ overall dimensions
2. Footer below frost (48″), block foundation with brick fascia above grade all sides.
3. 2×4 wall framing, 16 OC, 7/16 sheathing, felt paper wrap on outside.
4. Approximately 12 double hung wood windows (Marvin or Kolbe/Kolbe)
5. Steel beam for 2nd floor support (necessary?)
6. Poured concrete floor for garage.
7. 2×10 floor joists for 2nd floor, 16 OC/with 2×6 or 2×8 T/G pine or fir floorboards
8. Simple 5/12 or 6/12 pitch roof with 2 gable ends-trusses, OSB roof sheathing, 30 lb felt, Elk
dimensional shingles, drip edges, flashing.
9. Electrical- I’m planning on having a 150 amp box in the garage, fed directly from a nearby (30 ft) utility pole. The “normal” number of lights/outlets in the garage. In the workshop, there will be a liberal number (?) of 120 outlets, 240 outlets for stationary tools, flourescent lighting circuits, and task lighting.
10. Direct vent NG furnace in workshop wall, gas line underground from house (about 100 feet away)
11. 2 garage doors/openers, steel entry door.
I’ll plan in installing exterior pine siding, all exterior trim, interior window casings, insulation, interior wallboard, all painting.
I realize this is only an preliminary outline of what I’m planning, but if you could give me a price range on items 1 through 11, I’d appreciate it. Thanks for your input/advice
I’m making the assumption that a 2 story structure will be less expensive than a one story structure of similar sqaure footage due to one foundation, one roof. Good assumption?
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Gee whiz, I don't know. Hows about I comne over and have a look at it for ya. I'm in Cleveland. Seriously I would ballpark you at around 25k, give or take, with you supplying approved drawings.
Have you ran this by your local building department. Most areas do not allow you to exceed 15' or so in height for structures such as garages.
Pete Draganic
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Pete,
Looks like Hudson's zoning code allows max building height of 35 ft. Appears not to differentiate bewteen dwelling and accessory structure. I have enough land to do 1 story structure though of equal sf, with the required setbacks.
Thanks for the input.
Jim
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Jim,Pete has a good point on this.I also live in the area and you are gonna want to double check on the zoning.Most jurisdictions will have a maximum size in relation to the residence(footprint) and a maximum height considerably less than the residence.I was lucky last year and had my 24X28@7/12 grandfathered in by about 6 weeks ahead of new zoning.We now do some sub work for the builder and he tells us this type of zoning issue comes up a LOT.If it does you may be able to swing a variance but I suspect the neighbors in Hudson ain't gonna like it.
Good Luck,Stephen
*Jim, I forgot about the doors.I don't know if you need to park van's or trucks in there.I put a 18ft widex8ft high door in mine.The 7/12 gable end keeps everything visually in proportion.Extra cost for door and heavier opener was nominal.Good Luck,Stephen
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Stephen,
Good point on the zoning. I'll have to look into it further when the time comes.
thanks-Jim
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Next year, I'm planning on having a detached 2 story garage/workshop built on my land (NE Ohio).
Wonder if y'all could give me a ball park range for the items listed below( materials & labor), based on experienced, high quality workmanship. I won't be looking for the lowest price tag, but high quality.
Detached 2 story 2 car garage/workshop
1. 20' x 24' overall dimensions
2. Footer below frost (48"), block foundation with brick fascia above grade all sides.
3. 2x4 wall framing, 16 OC, 7/16 sheathing, felt paper wrap on outside.
4. Approximately 12 double hung wood windows (Marvin or Kolbe/Kolbe)
5. Steel beam for 2nd floor support (necessary?)
6. Poured concrete floor for garage.
7. 2x10 floor joists for 2nd floor, 16 OC/with 2x6 or 2x8 T/G pine or fir floorboards
8. Simple 5/12 or 6/12 pitch roof with 2 gable ends-trusses, OSB roof sheathing, 30 lb felt, Elk
dimensional shingles, drip edges, flashing.
9. Electrical- I'm planning on having a 150 amp box in the garage, fed directly from a nearby (30 ft) utility pole. The "normal" number of lights/outlets in the garage. In the workshop, there will be a liberal number (?) of 120 outlets, 240 outlets for stationary tools, flourescent lighting circuits, and task lighting.
10. Direct vent NG furnace in workshop wall, gas line underground from house (about 100 feet away)
11. 2 garage doors/openers, steel entry door.
I'll plan in installing exterior pine siding, all exterior trim, interior window casings, insulation, interior wallboard, all painting.
I realize this is only an preliminary outline of what I'm planning, but if you could give me a price range on items 1 through 11, I'd appreciate it. Thanks for your input/advice
I'm making the assumption that a 2 story structure will be less expensive than a one story structure of similar sqaure footage due to one foundation, one roof. Good assumption?
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I would suggest you look at using a deeper floor system instead of 2X10s, and eliminate that beam. You could use I-joists or floor trusses 14 or 16" deep and clear span the 20' direction. The depth would depend on the loading capacity you want on the 2nd floor. But keep in mind that deeper is stiffer.
Also - Why the T&G floor ? Why not plywood ? Seems a bit extreme.