Has anyone had any luck installing an undermount SS kitchen sink and a granite tile countertop… I am looking for a x-section detail and maybe a pic of you installation….any suggestions would be appreciated..
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do a search for a formica undermount sink in fhb not to long ago , the concept would be the same...
What part do you need help with? Cut the opening in the plywood like the mfgr says, lay the sink in place, mark the edge of the flange, remove the sink, use a router to cut a shallow (1/16" to 1/8" deep) rabbet for the flange, set the sink in a small bead of caulk, lay the tile normally. The you either have to make accurate cuts and smooth the edges of the granite, or buy som outside corner liners.
Whenever you are asked if you can do a job, tell'em "Certainly, I can!" Then get busy and find out how to do it. T. Roosevelt
I don't think I will go with a epoxy rim as shown in the FHB article, seems a little strange to me..
Ed, your idea is getting there, I am really looking for a build up edge detail though... I can roundover and polish the edges, but 3/8" tile is too thin for me...I am looking for a built up edge detail, like an 1"+ thick, still just using 3/8" tile...And something where the sink is actually undermounted with clips or cleats, not inset in the underlayment...Thanks so far...
I'm just shooting from the hip here, so if I'm totally off base, forgive me: can you get outside corner trim in granite tile (Not sure "outside corner" is the correct term, but that's the profile I'm thinking of.) ? If so, you could put the sink in with clips and run the trim tiles over the edges of the countertop underlayment around the hole cut out for the sink. If you can't get the trim in granite tile, maybe you could find a complemetary color or accent in regular ceramic tile.
What you are asking is similar to me asking "How do I make my Honda Civic (a fine automobile) corner and handle the road like a Ferrarri?"
Ed answered your question, knowing full well that you want to have a 1" solid surface material look with material that's only 3/8" in thickness. Can't have it. If you could there'd be even more stone tile countertops.
Whatever you end up with will be a compromise. Obviously, you think that if you hold out longer you may not have to compromise. A boy can dream, right? Wake up! Do a search in the forum. This question gets asked often.
I see by your profile you're new to the posting feature of this forum. If you want info - investment of our time - from us, then give us info - investment of your time - about you in your profile. Click on "My Forums", and then click on "My Profile". Fill out the questionaire. Kinda like when you go to a bank and ask for a mortgage. They won't give you one unless you also invest your own money too.
I don't intend to be curt; just terse. Don't take it personally. You just got caught in my headlights.
F.
Ok, your add'l info helped. I agree that the detail in the mag looks complicated, and not one O would want to do. The result was nice, and I'm not criticizing the author, but it's not my style.
So you want a truly undermount sink under granite. Hmmm. Maybe solid surface material around the sink opening, ectending down into the bowls some distance. After installation, run a router with a bottom bearing around the bowl and it will trim the SS flush. Now the hard part ... the transition from SS to granite........ Ok, how's this - use the shape of the bowl flange as a template, and cit a single piece of SS to that size and shape ... so that if you lay the finished SS on top of the sink flange (before mounting) the SS completely covers the flange and matches the outline. Whew! Then do a careful layout and have the granite fabricator cut an opening in the granite to allow the SS to drop into place. Epoxy in place, sand smooth, and rout.
Hey ... it's free advice ... and it's your project :)
Whenever you are asked if you can do a job, tell'em "Certainly, I can!" Then get busy and find out how to do it. T. Roosevelt
Hi Gary welcome to the forum.
I'm sure you will benefit from your trips to this site.
You don't have to tell anyone about your background or personal information to ask questions here unless you want to.
Making 3/8 inch tile look like 1 inch tile is ok with me if you can do it. It's your sink.
Once in a while you will get a reply from an AH with a HO for amateurs who will try to make you look cheap.
I think I get the intent of your message, and I think I agree ... I was just gonna let it slide. But I can't figger out what this means:
reply from an AH with a HO for amateurs
I got the AH I think, but what's HO? I thought that was homeowner ... apparently not. Oops ... just got it. Now I do agree with you. Unfortunate.Whenever you are asked if you can do a job, tell'em "Certainly, I can!" Then get busy and find out how to do it. T. Roosevelt
Arrow and Ed -
I was going to let it slide too but...
I don't think I am an AH with a HO for amatures.
However, yesterday afternoon along with a few times in the past, I did have a HO for anyone (amature or not) who appears out of the blue, poses a query, with giving limited info - not only about themselves, but also the context of the job/ project, or what they have tried/ considered - and then rejects a suggestion with "your idea is getting there." When coupled with "I am looking for a x-section detail and maybe a pic of you(r) installation," I unfortunately saw arrogance and greed. I have clients who do this, thinking we'll try harder for them or to challenge someone else to better the response/ solution. It's not appriciated at work where we are hired for our expertise or here where we volunteer for those in need.
Having stated that, yes, I was not very hospitable to a Newbie and for that I apologize. Maybe I should have given him the benifit of the doubt, but I had no doubts. I’ll try to be a bit less judgemental in the future.
F
Edited 8/17/2004 9:32 am ET by Frankie
gary, you cab also use outside corner tiles, the ones that have 1" legs, and overlap tjem into the bowl area, then caulk behind the tiles. That would take quite a bot os cutting segments of tiles to get fairly smooth corners.
Whenever you are asked if you can do a job, tell'em "Certainly, I can!" Then get busy and find out how to do it. T. Roosevelt
Thanks for the reply.
Gary is honest about what he is trying to do and is looking for some free advice about how to do it.
We can all learn something from the replies he gets and it does'nt cost any of us anything.
You were nice to apologize,hope he read it.
Wow, didn't know a simple question about a kitchen sink on a home building message board could be so controversial....
Thanks to everyone for sticking up for me...
I will try and post a pic of what I come up with myself...It will be a few months though, that is how far out I am booked with work...Like an amateur I was just thinking ahead...
Best Regards
Gary
gary, they make a bracket (kohler and others I would think) that you mount to the base cab, just either side and below the sink rim. You set the sink on the bracket, layover the substrait and tile (solid marble is what they're made for) . The bracket has screws you run up and raise the sink to the level of the bottom of the countertop. Simple and quick.Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.
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