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gutter alternatives??

| Posted in Construction Techniques on July 19, 2004 05:20am

I am building a cottage in the pacific NW for a HO that absolutely positively does not want gutters. The HO doesn’t want to deal with continually having to clean fir needles out of them, etc.  My main concern is the water backsplash onto the siding along the dripline. I am looking for possible landscape and drain ideas. Round rock along the drip line? I can extend the overhang to 3 foot, is that enough for a 12/12 pitch and a steel roof? Any ideas other than putting on gutters  would be helpful.

Thanks, Jonathan

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  1. MrBill | Jul 19, 2004 05:56am | #1

    Jonathan,

     Along one side of my house, I have railroad ties lining a bluestone driveway. I placed the ties directly under the drip line of the roof and tilted them just slightly towards the driveway. They have been that way for close to 20 years with no gutters and I have had no problems whatsoever with water splashing up on the siding, or getting into the basement.  The overhang is only about 20 inches. The only part of the house that has gutters is along the back where we have a deck, and I would love to get rid of them also because of the cleaning hassles.

     I dont know about round gravel, I would think that something like bluestone or other "chip" type rock would be better at keeping the water from splashing.

    Bill Koustenis

    Advanced Automotive Machine

    Waldorf Md

  2. Scooter456 | Jul 19, 2004 06:15am | #2

    Overhangs, at least three feet.

    Hardscape below, gravel, slopes, french drains etc.

    Kelsey

  3. HandymanCody | Jul 19, 2004 07:02am | #3

    I was visiting Colonial Williamsburg, VA, when on Guard dutty out there, and seen a neat idea that I might do when (hopefully, maybe, some-day) build my own house. No gutter like you said, then on the ground they had pavers laid out in a swallow half pipe formation to scuttle the water away. Almost viewable in the first pic. Or how about a sloped sidewalk as in the second pic.

    Cody

    I can't get them to up load, let me work on that.

    Heres a link to the pics.

     http://community.webshots.com/scripts/editPhotos.fcgi?action=viewall&albumID=164755451



    Edited 7/19/2004 12:15 am ET by HandymanCody

  4. IronHelix | Jul 19, 2004 03:03pm | #4

    This last week I and my daughter and son in law installed an exposed aggregate rain gutter at the drip line of their new house we have been building for the last two years.  

    The forms were 12" tall at the rear, 10" tall at the front and 18" wide, with a 8"deep scoop out of the middle as a ground gutter....consumming about a cubic foot of concrete per linear foot.   A little extra work...but worthwhile.

     Already had a rainstorm to try iy out....great results.

    No gutters is important due to the "in forest" location of the house, the 10/12 pitch of the roof and the heighth of the rear eaves at 22'.....so gutter maintenance would be dangerous and a real pain.

    At the rear we will install a pair timbertech 2x6's set at a 45 degree slope at the drip line.  The area between the drip shield and the basement wall will be filled with top soil and low growth & low maintenabce plants.  The area to the front will have a creekstone  base as a water causeway directing the flow onward with the downslope of the yard.

    I'm going out to do some more work this week...I try to remember to take some pics for you.

    .................Iron Helix



    Edited 7/19/2004 8:05 am ET by Iron Helix

    1. mizshredder2 | Jul 22, 2004 06:33am | #8

      "No gutters is important due to the "in forest" location of the house, the 10/12 pitch of the roof and the heighth of the rear eaves at 22'.....so gutter maintenance would be dangerous and a real pain."

      I hated clearing the gutters around my house that I purchased 2 years ago (lots of 50+ ft white oaks, pine trees, etc, in this area and on my lot) so I replaced them all with product by leafguard - see:   http://www.leafguard.com

      Not cheap - but work like a charm and the IN WRITING guarantee is: not to clog or they'll come out and clear 'em or replace as necessary.  Also, warranty is transferable to next homeowner (for fee of $100.00)...   A cost/benefit analysis of this product versus the landscape adjustments, might yield an interesting result...

  5. IronHelix | Jul 21, 2004 08:58pm | #5

    I have some pics of the ground gutter we poured last week......wouold like to post then here at breaktime, but their "attach" button for pics will not work(4 tries!)!!!

    So I can send them to your e-mail address if you will forward it to me.

    ..............Iron Helix

    1. buyhoney | Jul 22, 2004 05:10am | #6

      Thanks for the reply, My email address is     [email protected]        

      I'm looking forward to seeing the ground gutter

      Thanks             

  6. reinvent | Jul 22, 2004 06:29am | #7

    You heard of drip chain used insted of downspouts. So sugest a drip sreen.

    1. bluland | Mar 07, 2014 07:27am | #9

      Check out this site - Bluland Ground Gutters

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