my son is wanting to use stone veneer above cabinets, then hang a stainless steel shelf on that wall. how to we attach the shelf to that stone? any suggestions? thanks.
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Kinda depends upon your definition of "stone veneer."
Can we see a picture or drawing of the proposed stone in place? cross section.
Depending on how old your son is, if he wants it, get him to do the research on what and how it is done. Very good experience. If he wants it bad enough, he'll do it.
roger
spoken more like a parent than a construction consultant there, Roger!;)I had the impression this was to be done in HER house, so she has an interest in seeing that it is done right too
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Never had any kids. Still trying to figure how.roger
Did you try Googling it ?
I've been doing that for nearly 4o years and it doesn't work. Fun, but doesn't work. Maybe it's.......................I'd better not go there.roger
Yeah, it goes against every fiber of my being
but I'll shut up. Can't do it;
Did you Ask Jeeves ?
Lana could tell you - if you would help help with hanging this shelf.Information exchange complete and the universe is re-balanced so it doesn't crash
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i'm not telling roger anything. what difference does it make what one does for ones own children. ( i am kidding, though)
Well, we tend to kid around a lot here, and have probably come too close to going over the line of risque` considering you being new here. Sorry on behalf of us all.Anyways, got any more details about the stone situation and existing conditions?
Cabinets already there and wall finished or is this a new house, or????
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the house is just in the planning stages. (haven't even "broke" ground.) shelf will probably be 8 to 12 ft. long. i do have second thoughts about this because of the roughness and uneveniness fo the stone. it just may not work! you know, you see all these great things in all the chef's kitchens. i know you guys kid around, it is no be deal with me. i was kidding, too.
The further description makes sense now.There isa type of shelf made for this type situation, where there is stainless poles running vertically from the countertop to the ceiling, and the shelving hangs from them with compression brackets. It can be wire frame shelfs or smooth surface.For my opinion, tile would be a much better choice for a kitchen. The irregular surfaces of the stone mean a lot of collection points for grease and dust and other sorts of filth that can appear in kitchens. a porcelan tile or glazed surface ceramic would be far more sanitary for a food prep area. Also, the extreme contrast between rugged primitive stone and ultra-modern SS surfaces could either make a statement well, or could fall flat on its face.I'd save the stone for a den or library
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If you are still in the planning stage, it will be easy to add blocking behind the stone to make attachment much easier. Heck at only $40 a sheet, you could cover the whole wall with 1-1/8" plywood.
I worked on a trophy room for a hunter and we lined the entire room with thick ply under the sheetrock to make hanging things easier.
Beer was created so carpenters wouldn't rule the world.
Lots of options, depending...
If this is a frame wall, you could attach mounts before the stone, or at least mark out where the studs are to find later. Also depends on the type of shelf and it's required brackets.
Dowels can be drilled and epoxied into real stone, but I would avoid that with cultured veneer. It might not handle the weight to be placed on the veneer.
Frankly, this sounds like a very odd design situation that could be presenting more problems than you imagine with out thinking through every single detail first.
That is why we would need more details before being able to help very much
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Lana,
What about hanging the shelf first, then stone veneering to it? It may take a deeper shelf, but the stone & mortar will help support it.
Bill
i think this might be the thing to do. hang the shelf, then stone around it. it is the real mccoy stone, not cultured. i used the word veneer and this was probably misleading. the quarry people cut the thickness from real stone so that you do not have to use a foundation (like when laying a chimney) it helps eliminate the weight of the stone. he is not using upper cabinets. it is on an outside wall. the stainless steel shelf will hold regular kitchen items: salt, pepper, maybe a pan or two. you know, maybe tile or brickettes would be a better choice. thanks, "guys".
"it is the real mccoy stone, not cultured. i used the word veneer and this was probably misleading. the quarry people cut the thickness from real stone so that you do not have to use a foundation (like when laying a chimney) it helps eliminate the weight of the stone. "No, you are using the correct term. Th at is veneer stone.You might also want to think about using stone tile. Limestone, slate and others come in that form.That is more uniform and easier to seal which helps in a kitchen.Still a stone, but a different look. Depending on what you want..
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A-holes. Hey every group has to have one. And I have been elected to be the one. I should make that my tagline.
I like the idea of mounting the shelf first and then laying your stone to/around it.
Depending on the shelf and what it needs to hold - you could get it pretty damn solid before hand, wouldn't need the stone to do any of the work for you.
What are the requirements/size of the shelf?
Doug