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You guys have helped me a bunch, even though most of you are madder than a flock of March Hares. Try this one:
I am putting Hardieplank on a house built of insulated concrete forms (Polysteel). The Hardie literature says to use “Fluted, bugle-headed screws.” I have been trying to find them, but to no avail. Most store associates look at me like I have worms crawling out of my ears! (Where did THAT line come from?) They not only have to be fluted, the threads must come all the way to the head so they will stay engaged in the galvanized furring strips when sunk into the planks. And, they have to be exterior grade. Whew!!!
Where can I get them? Who makes them? I’m calling Hardie tomorrow, and getting their advice.
Don Reinhard
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May as well tell you that I'm not positive about this, but those screws are probably similar to deck screws with flutes that self-countersink (counterflush) the heads.
If you use regular screws with hardie, you'll have a hard time getting the heads flush or lower than the surface of the board.
I assume you only need screws for certain areas or applications--perhaps only the icf areas right? Screwing down all the siding would be SLOW...
Have fun!
MD
*I think I've seen them at Lowes in the flooring dept.near the Hardi-board underlayment. Good luckMike
*The flat-head cement board screws are available with "nibs" under the head to cut away the board, allowing you a countersunk mounting. And, "bugle head" screws are nothing more than flat head screws with a rounded fillet at the bottom.McFeeley's sells them with corrosion-resistant coatings. And, I have seen same in Home Depot.http://store.yahoo.com/squaredrive/fasteners-screws-specialty-screws-cement-board-screws.html
*I just finished putting Hardie siding on my steel framed house. I got the screws from Grabber, Flat head exterior driller, They're coated and have the nibs. Went rather well.www.grabberman.comGo to the metal screw link and scroll down to the middle of the page.
*And http://www.quickscrews.com
*And http://www.dscheinert.com
*Mad Dog,"Screwing down all the siding would be SLOW..."I don't even think it'll go that fast.Don,Best of luck. Sounds like a real project trying to screw down Hardiplank and get all the heads in flush enough. I hope it's a small house. Why not use wood furring strips and nail to that?Pete Draganic
*Screws do not mix with cement based siding products. The chemical in cement will attack the steel screws. You must use stainless steel screws and the good ones are expensive. Stainless steel products from China and other countries often contain impurities. McFeeley's is the only source I know that has excellent quality control on their screws. Jamestown Distributors in R.I. has sent me a lot of junk screws that did not endure. And Pete is correct in that you will be wise using furring strips. Installing the siding even with nails is a slow process. Current project is a 2000 sq. ft. house with Cemplank so I speak from experience.
*Whoah,I'm gonna put this on my list of jobs I don't want. Or at least double my fiber cement install rates.You would be wise to use a good qualtity s.s. screw however. I have found that the coating on even good galvy screws, etc. wears off on the way in.Tom
*Thanks, Guys! I did call the local Hardie guy. He was convinced I had worms crawling out of my ears. The Polysteel ICF have galvanized furring strips built in. Don't need to add the wood. My carpenter has done a few dry runs, and the drywall screws he used to get a feel for it went right in, no sweat! I, too, found the fluted flathead screws in Home Depot - at some outrageous cost. They were in Flooring, right next to the Hardie Backer. The guy in Nuts, bolts, screws, etc. Had no idea what I wanted. The Commercial Sales guy got the phone number for their distributer for me, to see if I can buy in bigger qtys, cheaper. The guy at the local Kentec Megatools place gave me McFeely, Grabber and one other suggestion. What he didn't give me was a review on the various products. THAT, from here, was more valuable than anything else.Once again - thanks, bunches!Don Reinhard
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You guys have helped me a bunch, even though most of you are madder than a flock of March Hares. Try this one:
I am putting Hardieplank on a house built of insulated concrete forms (Polysteel). The Hardie literature says to use "Fluted, bugle-headed screws." I have been trying to find them, but to no avail. Most store associates look at me like I have worms crawling out of my ears! (Where did THAT line come from?) They not only have to be fluted, the threads must come all the way to the head so they will stay engaged in the galvanized furring strips when sunk into the planks. And, they have to be exterior grade. Whew!!!
Where can I get them? Who makes them? I'm calling Hardie tomorrow, and getting their advice.
Don Reinhard