How are these headers held in place?
blownonfuel
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Are they end nailed, toe nailed, face nailed from above?
Sorry, the pic needs rotation to the right.
Edited 7/20/2008 11:33 am ET by blownonfuel
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Looks like there might be some toenails, but no doubt its end-nailed through the king stud. And also the filler 2x's would be nailed down into it, and the top plates nailed to those.
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Edited 7/20/2008 11:46 am by Huck
Thanks Huck. What is the nailing schedule per code for garage headers like these? How many and what size for end nailing?
Not sure what the code is - we would nail these with about ten 16-penny nails at each end. Why the questions - you planning on removing the header? Beefing up the attachment with some Simpson hardware?
edited to add: Don't forget the exterior shear panel also serves to tie the framing to the header.
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Edited 7/20/2008 12:00 pm by Huck
No Huck i'm putting one up just like it, I just was not sure on the way it was secured .
A retro fit? You might have to handle it a little differently than a header put in as new construction. What are the circumstances? Photo of where the header is going?View Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product” – Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
I think he is building an addition.
It's new construction Huck, an addition to my home.
OK - but if you're framing an addition, and have to ask how a header is nailed up, I'm thinking you should get some help with the framing from a more experienced framer. A guy could get hurt manhandling one of those big chunks of lumber, if he didn't know the dance steps by heart! Not a "pro's only" viewpoint, just a "stay safe by working within the realm of your experience" kinda comment. My 2 cents worth.
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Edited 7/20/2008 12:40 pm by Huck
Thanks for the concern Huck. Yes I will be getting some help in this one but I am one of those people that likes to know the hows and whys. Are walls like this with large headers framed on the ground then hoisted up like conventional walls or are the large headers put up after the wall is up?
Either or. You could stand the walls, then hoist the header into place with a genie lift. I'd leave the king studs out, nail it into the king studs, then lift the unit into place, and add the double trimmers once it was up there. Toenail from the plate down, and add shear panel - then the plywood arch assembly below. That puppy's going nowhere.View Image “Good work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product” – Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com
Thanks Huck for your help. No arch on my addition just your typical straight trim.
They are end nailed and then the king studs are put in place.
I'm assuming the pic you posted was rotated and then Huck rotated it correctly? Now that he has correctd it, on the left is shown is an LVL header? (smadwitched plywood beam). How wide is the garage door opening? I'm also assuming that the 4 two bys samwiched together at the top of the pic is a roof truss girder or something which are supported by the 5 full height studs?
Edited 7/20/2008 1:56 pm ET by Matt
Hello Matt. Yes at the very top there is a truss that the joists tie into along with other parts of that house. The garage door was 9' wide if I remember correctly.