I’ve seen threads on how hot is to hot, but how cold is to cold.
I mean this morning was 9 and this afternoon was 20. I tried to stay in as much as possible but aroung 4:30 I was ripping plywood. It’s amazing how fast your hands get cold and your nose starts running. When do you quit working outside. Yesterday I quit early. It was around 16 and wind chill of -6.
I think the worst part of working inside and cutting outside is trying to dress right. If you leave to much on you sweat inside and then freeze outside. Otherwise your dressing a million times a day.
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but how cold is too cold.
Well, pretty damn cold is just above that.
Being closer to the arctic plunge, I'm getting excited as tomorrow it goes up to and hopefully above, 10.
Cutting outside/working in is one of those no win situations. With the homo's thermo set to 68 and above, I often forget I shut down the unit when I go home. Have had or made a few phone calls around dinner time apologising and instructing on how to turn the furnace back on.
Believe me, I'd rather work in OR out, for a change.
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I did the same thing yesterday Calvin. Had to call customer and apologize and tell them to turn the furnace back up. I also agree that the in and out really gets to me. Same thing in the summer when they have the AC cranked and it is 95 outside. Those hot/cold changes all day give me a headache!
I try to minimize the ins and outs by trying to cut as many pieces as possible at a time, then work inside for a while. Obviously that is not always possible...
It wasn't as cold here today as by you. We were in the low 20s.
But I was replacing old HC flush doors with new 4-panel SC masonite doors, doing all the cutting and planing in the unheated garage. At least it was out of the wind. There was absolutely no room in the house to work.
I don't like going from cold to warm and back again all day, but I do like to eat, so you do what you gotta do.
But DW and I are going to visit my MIL on Alabama's gulf coast on Friday for 11 days.
I'm bringing my golf clubs.
Your efficiency gradulaly goes down from 20°F to -5°.
At minus thirty, you ain't getting enough done to be worth trying.
We've had a couple of wind chill days minus twenty lately. Staying inside.
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Yesterday morning I think the wond chill was -13. Thats cold enough for me.
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A friend who used to do estimating for one of the biggest international construction outfits said that they used 70* as a benchmark. Every ten degrees up or down from that mark added 10% to labor estimate.
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That's a decent rule of thumb, but to be accurate, it would need a bell curve. I am more efficient at 60 than at 70, but that efficiency drops offf faster and faster below zero.Your post about beam framing reminded me of a job where the electricians had the interioor of a house just as a cold snap hit back in the late eighties. We had a porch withbeam frame to do is the only job available that week. It was Christmass week, and the owners were visiting from California and staying at theeir guest house which was already finished.That porch faced north and the wind was coming enough to make the wind chill well below minus thirty. We'd fit and fiddle with a beam, scribe, then carry it inside to shave it some more, then back out to set it again...to this day, every time I see the owner on a cold day, he reminds me of how tough or foolish I was that day. He could barely tolerate walking across the lot from one house to the other and he sat in the guest house most of the day watching our progress while drinking coffee.
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Yeah, a lot depends on the job. Something where you can keep moving and work with heavy gloves (and where a little fog on the glasses isn't a problem) you can do at 10 below and not be terribly inefficient. Framing and such can be done with light gloves and doesn't require great precision, so I can manage pretty well at 20 above with only minor loss of efficiency (not that I'm that efficient to begin with).Trim carpentry or electrical, where gloves won't do, 35 is probably my limit. If it's something like existing plumbing where I'll get wet I really hate to work below 50 or so.I've done wet plumbing when the temp was 20 or so and it's not pleasant. You have to stop from time to time to unfreeze your hand from the wrench.Of course, the best thing to do is to tent the work area and heat it, wherever possible. Makes work safer and more efficient, in addition to simply being more pleasant. I've seen block walls done in steady 20-below temps using a tent.
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Wet plumbing - what a nightmare!I'm thinking of when I rented a mobile home in Colorado. It was underskirted with insulation and had the pipes wrapped too.But I got home one night when it had been about thirty below all day with wind blowing and found that the supply cock as it came out of the well underground had frozen and broke at the valve body! It was spraying water. The owner of the Mobile home park had a shut off tool to reach down the well to shut the gate valve off down there, but it was a good four feet long, and the crawl spoace I was working in was only about 30" so I could not get it in the well.so I got the wood stove humping and put on a coveralls, set things up with tools and parts laid out like a surgeon, and changed that valve in the cold with forty degree water spraying me the whole time - valves open of course.Then I quickly covered it all up and beat feet for the inside before the shaking and shivering could shut me down. Clothes were already getting stiff with ice as I clumped around closing the crawl space door, etc.Hot shower and all was well with the world again. I suggested to the owner that he redesign his shutoff tool to have a universal type joint.
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Heck, I would have cut a hole in the floor before I'd do that.Was talking to a guy at the gym this AM who's the local mobile park slumlord (several parks totalling over 100 lots, I gather). Said he's had dozens of frozen/broken pipes in the past two weeks that we've had this cold snap. A couple of times had to get a backhoe in to dig out a frozen/burst connection.
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Sometimes tough and foolish seem to be hand-in-hand.Hopefully, I'm not as tough as I used to be. <G>
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It depends on what we're doing, how financially benefical the job is, and how adventurous I'm feeling.
In my younger years it was much easier to put on all the layers, as if ice fishing, and whittle away outside. Each year it gets harder to do, but if the money is right I'll go out in anything.
When the towel is thrown in there are usually a number of odds and ends to catch up on that still pay bills. I'm a big believer in leaving a big pile of misc. jobs for bad weather, and it probably adds 3-4 days of work that would otherwise be spent indoors, usually due to rain/sleat.
Worst case, if there is a week of unbearable weather other contractors may have some inside work although that hasn't been a problem in the last half dozen years.
Living in Boise is pretty cushy and the temps aren't bad in the worst weather, but it would be more of a problem with a mountain property outside of town. Back in Wyoming a winter house build can be brutal so the garage would be the first section framed up and it acts as a refuge and warming hut as needed. Having a 500 gal. propane tank delivered early on is common and can be a significant factor in productivity.
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"How cold is cold"
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I'm in the North East and the ice picture was from Versoix Switzerland, near Geneva City. The body of water in the background is Leman Lake. I think the pictures are a few years old though. Here's a few more
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Looks like my driveway.
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I have absolutely no clue what my driveway looks like...
haven't seen it in months...Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
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And I need to cut my grass this weekend.
That's some SERIOUS snow, avalanche?
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some? You make it sound like it's just an everyday normal amount.
too cold for me is 65 degree outside, and if there a slight wind, you can forget it. staying in bed with the blanket.
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What about the week when it's your wife's turn to use the blanket?
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I heard a new term the other day regarding working in a nasty enviroment. Like this fridgid cold weather. You have to. "Embrace The Suck." Meaning."Alright I know this is gonna suck. I might as well embrace it. It's not gonna suck forever. Just until I get through it."
Think ya used enough dynamite there, Butch?
LOL. I LIKE THAT! Rubher Duck and I are going out and drop a few towers of scaffold and reset it up...covered in ice. THis will be an embrace to remember...but we need the $ too bad to NOT do it....arrgghhh.
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Yesterday it was -18* here (wind chill -33*)...lucky for me I got to play inside (stairs and trim).
This morning it was only -5* (wind chill -20*)...sure glad things warmed up! ; ) It did feel much nicer out...really.
I don't mind the cold. Dress warm, work hard, bring a big thermos and quit early.
Twenty? Above? And you're complaining?
THe 20 above was ok. It was the 14 after dark and the 10 below wind chill. Thats when I quit for the day. 20 with only a little breeze is ok.
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Ten below wind chill? Heck, that's shirt-sleeve weather. You only really start to button up when it hits 25 below.
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I just read a filler blurb in the local newspaper that said the record cold in the continental U.S. was -70 degrees and in all of U.S. it was -80 (Alaska). The numbers sounded a little to rounded off, so I checked in Google and came up with this:
"In the United States, the lowest temperature on record,–79.8°F, was recorded on January 23, 1971, at Prospect Creek Camp, which is located in the Endicott Mountains of Northern Alaska at latitude 66° 48′N, longitude 150° 40′W. The lowest temperature in the contiguous 48 states,–69.7°F, occurred on January 20, 1954, at Rogers Pass, in Lewis and Clark County, Montana. This location is in mountainous and heavily forested terrain, about 0.5 mi east of and 140 ft below the summit of the Continental Divide.
"The lowest average annual temperature recorded in the United States is 9.4°F at Barrow, Alaska, which lies on the Arctic coast. Barrow also has the coolest summers (June, July, August) with an average of 41.9°F. The lowest average winter (December, January, February) temperature is–20.1°F at Barter Island on the Arctic coast of northeast Alaska. In Hawaii, average annual temperatures range from 44°F at Mauna Loa Slope Observatory (elevation 11,146 ft) on the island of Hawaii to 77.2°F at Honolulu on the island of Oahu.
"In the contiguous 48 states, Mt. Washington, New Hampshire (elevation 6,262 ft) has the lowest mean annual temperature, 26.5°F, and the lowest mean summer (June, July, August) temperature, 51.6°F. A few stations in the Northeast and upper Rockies have mean annuals in the high 30s, and at the same stations in the latter area, summers may average in the high 40s. Winter (December, January, February) mean temperature are lowest in northeastern North Dakota where the average is 5.9°F at the Langdon Experiment Farm and northwestern Minnesota where the average is 6.1°F at Hallock.
"In continental areas of the temperate zone, 40–50°F temperature falls in a few hours caused by advection of cold air masses are not uncommon. Sometimes, following these large drops due to advection, radiation may cause a further temperature fall resulting in remarkable changes. Some outstanding extreme temperature falls are:
"24 hours: 100°F, Browning, MT, Jan. 23–24, 1916, from 44°F to–56°F.
"12 hours: 84°F, Fairfield, MT, Dec. 24, 1924, from 63°F at noon to–21°F at midnight.
"2 hours: 62°F, Rapid City, SD, Jan. 12, 1911, from 49°F at 6 A.M. to–13°F at 8 A.M.
"27 minutes: 58°F, Spearfish, SD, Jan. 22, 1943, from 54°F at 9 A.M., to–4°F at 9:27 A.M.
I went up to Barrow for a short term job in early june some years ago. On my way into town from the airport there was a group of people running around and singing that it was a really great summer day - it was about 45 degrees, overcast and a light rain. Definitely a different perspective...
EDIT: whoops, forgot to credit where I stole this info:
http://www.weatherexplained.com/Vol-1/Record-Setting-Weather.html
Edited 2/7/2007 12:16 am ET by CaseyR
Out here in the San Francisco Bay Area, it actually dipped below freezing for a few nights this winter! We actually had to keep the heat on all day. Talk about having to stay in bed with the blanket...
Could you give that to us again with some actual minus signs. And withut all the –And ÂTossed in there ?Looks like greek salad to me...;o)
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"In the contiguous 48 states, Mt. Washington, New Hampshire (elevation 6,262 ft) has the lowest mean annual temperature, 26.5°F, and the lowest mean summer (June, July, August) temperature, 51.6°F.
Yesterday the summit of Mt. Washington reported -22 with 95 mph. That's too cold.
They have a foot race every year around Memorial Day. it's about 8 miles or so. One year I drove up just as the last runners were arriving. On the bottom, it was a typical late May day, around 70 degrees. At the summit it was snowing.
I mean this morning was 9 and this afternoon was 20.
Well, that's not too bad for here, of late. Here's our forecast for the next 7 days. After some of the weather we've had of late, this is a relative heatwave. I can actually stand to work in 20F. At 10-15F, I get pretty miserable and productivity drops off pretty severely.
Below 5F, I go home. It's pretty pathetic when you're working in a house (closed up, but w/ no insulation or central heat) with almost 300K BTU of propane heaters going and you STILL can't get warm.
On the flip side there are guys like my father-in-law, who was raised on a farm and has worked outside his whole life. You know - hands like old baseball gloves, not afraid of anything. He was out hanging aluminum soffit a couple weeks ago, and finally decided he oughta put on gloves and a hat. It was TWO FRICKIN' DEGREES.
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Sunday it was -22F here when I let the dogs out in the early morning - they wanted back in rather quickly
Monday was -23F when I left for work
Tuesday was -13 when I left for work
This morning it was -19 when I left for work
On the plus side we are supposed to get to +10F today which will be nice - however we wil be back below zero by sunset
And these are actual temps - not windchills. Windchill temps have hit -50 (Sunday)
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I can work outside until it gets down around zero. Below that and it had better be DANGED important, or I'm going back inside. I can work and be fairly comfortable at 20° or above. Anything about 50° and I can generally work without a jacket..Funny thing - Yesterday it was 0° when I left for work. Coldest day of the year here so far, and my car overheated. Still don't exactly know why...
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system / radiator iced up did let the water circulate.....
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I thought that too. But I looked in the surge tank, and it was all liquid. It's been leaking a bit, and I've been careful to add 50/50 mix back in. That should be good down to 20 below or so.
I got a new shadow. I had to get rid of the other one it wasn't doing what I was doing.
60/40...
you have wind chill to contend with..Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
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Hell, I don't actually MEASURE it. I dump some antifreeze in, then dump some water in, kinda guessing at the ratios.I figure if I get too much water in one time I'll put too much antifreeze in the next time and even things out.(-:
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I is what I is.(-:
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Good thing you left the " % " out of the 60/40. It's not worth the bandwidth. <G>Remodeling Contractor just on the other side of the Glass City
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Radiator probably partially froze from the effect of the air being pushed past it from the fan. Not an uncommon occurence. Next time try blocking a portion of the radiator with cardboard or something until the car reaches operating temp.
I had an Oldsmobile F-85 with a big v-8 engine back in 1969. Driving across PA. on the Interstate against a stiff headwind with temps below zero in January the car started running very rough. It took me a moment or two to realise that the temperature gauge was showing cold. The engine was so cold that the automatic choke was closing off the carburator. I cut up a piece of a cardboard box I had and covered about 1/2 the radiator, no problem after that .
Just don't forget to remove the cardboard after the temps warm up... no need to ask how I know that .
I'm pretty sure wind chill only effects living stuff, can't picture Boss in a Cougar...well, maybe an Impala<G> "But to be honest some folks here have been pushing the envelope quite a bit with their unnecessary use if swear words. They just put a character in to replace a letter. But everyone knows what they're saying." Sancho
Wind chill affects how fast a stopped engine cools off, but not how cold it will get. Around here folks know to point their cars downwind when it's really cold -- may gain you another 5 degrees or so of engine temp after the car sits in a parking lot several hours.
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In 1982 corpus christi texas, xmas day. we went swimming. It was a cold day of 82, the water temp was in the 70"s. Now that was a cold day.
I feel your pain.
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Makes me wonder why they put variable speed fans on engines if increased air flow doesn't cool the coolant.
straight water and the temps in the 30's low 40's and the vehicle will over heat...Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
can't picture Boss in a Cougar...well, maybe an Impala
WTB the Cougar would put up a rucas over that and I don't think the Boss is fast enough to catch an Impala...Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
Bad water pump?
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After I shut the car off and let it cool down, it ran fine for the next 2 days. So I think the water pump is O.K.I wondered if maybe the thermostat stuck for some odd reason.
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Could have been slush built up against the thermostat or some such. Shutting it down let the heat work through and melt it.
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That's probly it. At least a freeze out plug didn't pop, that really sucks.
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Northwest Wisconsin - close to the Minnesota border
it never gets colder than -30 here - ever...
whew!!!!
the thermostat says so... (that's as cold it reads)
just a bit ago the the trees were splitting from the cold...
today it's in the 60's for the 3rd day in a row....
but tomorrow promises that'll all come crashing down....Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
Could be worse...
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Could be a whole lot worse. One could live where Dino lives in Tremblant Canada.
LAst time we were there to ski during a xmas vaca I walked out to the car and my eyelids near froze open. Got in the car to go over the the ski slopes and the dig thermometer in the car said -17 F and thats with no wind chill factor.
Funny thing is...you go up on the mtn...to the summit where its yet even colder and yer having a great time...out all day long in colder weather than you'd even dream about...skiing all day long...but come home to +17 F and you don't even wanna take the garbage out to the curb.
The other funny thing is...you set your thermostat to 67* and I'm roasting...in the summer I set it to 67* and I feel cool...
Go figure!
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try setting it to 69. That works better both ways
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Fill in you profile. I was wondering where you live. I don't mine the cold but thats crazy. The funny part to me is cold is easier to take if it drops gradually. It was in the 60*s 2 weeks ago and 20 now.
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We've had a bit of cold, but not much snow,
Last night on the news they mentioned that the area is about 24 inches below average for snow - and while March is generally the snowiest month, if we don't get a good bit of snow soon it could cause problems in the spring...
Yeah, same here (despite the crack about my driveway). At least a foot behind normal.
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Just checked the thermometer and it is -13 this morning which is about 6 degrees warmer than yesterday at this time. No wind though, so its not too bad.
Supposed to be +10 today and +11 tomorrow and +12 on saturday (highs)...figured it was heading in the right direction - but now Monday they are saying it is going to get cold again...
Maybe 5 degrees warmer here. They still aren't saying when the cold snap will be over -- not by the weekend for sure.
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if there is no wind i usually won't work in less than -10 F. one day last week it was minus 11F when we showed up, but warmed up to a comfortable 5 F. so really it depends on the wind i've found, ie. how tough are you.
I worked in Lake Placid, NY in February 1978 or 79 prepping for the Olympics.
We got up in the morning and the thermometer had dropped down into the bulb.
Low on the thermometer was -50, so it was colder then that.
My partners K5 Blazer truck with dual batteries, block heater and water heater couldn't even start.
We didn't get much done that day.
Now, I'm a wuss. I don't work outside when it's colder the 20.
Jeff
If we're gonna start swappin' stories - I want in.Coldest day I ever worked outside, the wind chill had readings to minus 86 that day. I didn't get too much done.The year before ( nust have bene about '78) I left to house to get ready to go to work and when I started the truck it was pretty stiff turning over. After geting the engine running, I hpped out to unplug the heater, and as soon as I touched the cord, it shattered in my hand because the insulation was so brittle. So I went back inside to warm up while the truck was a-warming.
Went back out and could not put it in gear - tranny fluid too cold to let me move the shifter.
Back inside for another cup of coffee.Got out again and slid it into reverse to back out...Heard a loud bang from the rear end so I tookit bacl out of gear and went to look - the sidewall of the tire had split wide open 3-4 inches!God was telling me I was not going to work that day. Went inside and called wrecker service to deal with it.
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There's a bank on the first floor of my office building, and they're in the process of adding a two lane drivethrough teller, with a canopy and all that. The guys doing the construction have been out there every day all day working on it; right now at 12:30pm, the sun is shining and it's 0 degrees F. It has been between -10 and -20 in the mornings.
"How cold is cold"..that's an easy one...as in a woman's heart. Just about absolute zero!
We frame year round, but generally dont even bother when its 15 or below, and it seems when it gets that cold here (St Louis area), theres always a pesky wind to fight.
To much misery to deal with IMO, and after 13 yrs of non stop framing, I know my bodys limits. I used to be die hard in the cold, but not anymore. Not to mention my help tends to dissapear during extreme weather....hot or cold.
Chuck
In 1979 I got pi$$ed off and quit a job because we were framing a restaurant. It was about 25-30 below temp and 20 mph wind. We were needing to cut and install rafters on beamwork 12-25 feet off the ground. Ground was covered with snow and ice (big surprise). Working on aluminum ladders (damp gloves stick!) I sent the crew home after one hour and went back to the office. Boss man said I just wasn't cut out for the job and I agreed.
but, I'm a wimp.
Later I decided not to work outside if it was below about 20 degrees. Too hard to get anything done. My best buddy/co-worker has poor circulation in hands and feet. He can't handle below 45*.
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I have poor circulation in my hands and feet as well. Always been a huge problem in cold temps.But I overheat real fast, as well.45 is optimum work temp for me.35 is getting too cold, and that is when my hands and feet get too cold as well. Anything above 55 and I start to overheat quickly when working. 65 and above, forget it. I get as much work done from that point on up, as I do when it is 35 and below.
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BTW: tell your friend to grow his own peppermint.Break the leaves off the stems, and dry them on top of the fridge for two weeks. Then make tea from that. Strong tea. A little cream and sugar helps as well, for some reason.The packaged stuff doesn't seem to do as well. And I have no idea why the cream and sugar makes a difference but it does.I started that when I was in the mennonite disaster service, just because I wanted to drink the tea. Imagine my joy when I discovered that it also helped keep the hands and feet a bit warmer.=0)
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I live and build on Madeline Island in nw Wisconsin. We haven't worked all week. I had -9 this morning with a windchill of -25. I'll work outside to 0 if there is no wind. I'm outside alot in the winter. if I can keep my hands warm I'm good to go. Over the years I've figured that out. I built a glove dryer/warmer. If you are interrested in how to make one, just ask.
Check this link out about the lake effect event going on in Upstate NY. 100" inches plus by this weekend.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17042993/?GT1=9033