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How did he do that?

smllr | Posted in General Discussion on September 29, 2008 03:53am

Greetings,

My dad paneled the mudroom in my parents’ house with plywood. In painting the mudroom, I did not see (or feel) any of the plywood joints. The space is not conditioned (heated or cooled).

I am curious as to what he used to fill the joints. He has passed so I can’t ask him. I would have thought that joint compound or wood filler would have shown evidence of cracking over the years in the unconditioned space.

Any ideas?

Steve M.

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    Heck | Sep 29, 2008 04:13pm | #1

    duct tape?

     

    'Me not built for pretty - Me built for strong' TM
           

  2. mike_maines | Sep 29, 2008 04:18pm | #2

    I've made invisible joints with glue and biscuits, or glue and pocket screws.  Maybe he used glue and dowels?  Then sanded flush, little Bondo if needed?

  3. Frankie | Sep 29, 2008 05:20pm | #3

    Maybe he rabbeted the edges of the plywood so there was an overlap at the joints which were glued together. Then a skimmed with Bondo or woodfiller at the joints.

    How long ago did he do this?

    Frankie

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    1. smllr | Sep 29, 2008 05:45pm | #4

      I'm guessing that the plywood was installed about 40 years ago. I'm pretty confident that he didn't use dowels, biscuits, or pocket screws.Would Bondo be less likely to crack than joint compound or wood filler?Thanks,
      Steve M.

      1. DanH | Sep 29, 2008 08:45pm | #7

        He probably used some sort of spackling compound or wood putty.
        Corporation: n. An ingenious device for obtaining individual profit without individual responsibility. --Ambrose Bierce

      2. Frankie | Sep 29, 2008 11:00pm | #11

        No dowels. No biscuits. Just rabbets. He took off the top half of one sheet x 1/2" and took off the bottom half x 1/2" of the adjacent sheet. This would allow each sheet to overlap the other by 1/2". This would also provide a good glue bed on two faces of each sheet.And, he probably nailed throught the overlap to attach them top the studs. Your Dad was a pretty clever guy.Don't think they had Bondo then, but they had other stuff we don't have now. Frankie

        Flay your Suffolk bought-this-morning sole with organic hand-cracked pepper and blasted salt.

        Thrill each side for four minutes at torchmark haut. Interrogate a lemon.

        Embarrass any tough roots from the samphire. Then bamboozle till it's al dente with that certain je ne sais quoi.

        Arabella Weir as Minty Marchmont - Posh Nosh

        1. MikeHennessy | Sep 30, 2008 12:17am | #12

          "Don't think they had Bondo then"

          Sure they did -- that's what made up half of the body on my 1965 Ford Falcon!

          Every month or so, another piece of the body would rust through, and I'd slap on a new layer of bondo and paint it with a can or two of spray paint.

          Mike HennessyPittsburgh, PA

        2. FastEddie | Sep 30, 2008 02:04am | #13

          This would allow each sheet to overlap the other by 1/2".

          Hopefully he allowed for the shrinkage when the layed out the studs, or maybe it was a small room.  Otherwise the third lap joint would not fall on a stud."Put your creed in your deed."   Emerson

          "When asked if you can do something, tell'em "Why certainly I can", then get busy and find a way to do it."  T. Roosevelt

  4. brucet9 | Sep 29, 2008 06:10pm | #5

    I would expect expansion/contraction of plywood to be very slight, since it is made up of layers with grain at right angles to one another. That being the case, almost any filler would remain in place and succeeding paint layers would bridge the joint.

    BruceT
  5. K1500 | Sep 29, 2008 07:58pm | #6

    Was it beadboard?

  6. pebble | Sep 29, 2008 08:53pm | #8

    Can you tell if the grain of the plywood runs horizontally or vertically? Vertical runs seem like they would blend in very well.

    Handyman, painter, wood floor refinisher, property maintenance in Tulsa, OK

    1. smllr | Sep 29, 2008 09:21pm | #9

      The plywood is not beadboard, but the grain does appear to run vertically.

  7. jej | Sep 29, 2008 10:45pm | #10

    toung and groove

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    Luka | Sep 30, 2008 02:35am | #14

    He cut it all out of one big sheet of plywood.

    He laminated the plywood right on the walls. From 1/16" by 8' veneer, right off the roll.

    The house is located atop one of the earth's mystic centers, and pops knew the secrets.

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  9. dovetail97128 | Sep 30, 2008 02:50am | #15

    Yea,
    He used sanded , no groove, T-111 that comes with laps already machined in on it's long edges. Filled the slight crack at the joints , sanded it and painted it.

    They can't get your Goat if you don't tell them where it is hidden.
    1. DanH | Sep 30, 2008 03:19am | #16

      Backed each joint with about 4" of plywood, glued.
      Corporation: n. An ingenious device for obtaining individual profit without individual responsibility. --Ambrose Bierce

      1. hvtrimguy | Sep 30, 2008 04:25am | #17

        that sounds like it would do the trick."it aint the work I mind,
        It's the feeling of falling further behind."Bozini Latinihttp://www.ingrainedwoodworking.com

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    G80104 | Sep 30, 2008 05:09am | #18

    Most of the oldtimers I know/knew kept this stuff right next to the Vitailis hair tonic....

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    1. DanH | Sep 30, 2008 05:10am | #19

      Yeah, they sometimes got them confused.
      Corporation: n. An ingenious device for obtaining individual profit without individual responsibility. --Ambrose Bierce

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