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How do I finish this?

purplerays | Posted in Construction Techniques on May 3, 2008 01:29am

Hey Guys,

I am finishing a basement and the homeowner has asked for a spray painted ceiling.  The bathroom and bedroom ceilings will be drywalled, but they want to spray paint over all framing, ductwork, etc.  I am wondering how to handle the joint from wall to ceiling.  I am planning to stand 8′ sheets on end, I thought the factory edges up would be a good bet.  Thanks in advance.

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  1. ruffmike | May 03, 2008 02:15am | #1

    Generally that would call out for an L bead http://www.trim-tex.com/productsindex.htm

    Is the non-ceiling going to be a different color like flat black? Maybe run a paint line a few inches below the top of your board and no speccial finishing will be needed.

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  2. k1c | May 04, 2008 09:13pm | #2

    I assume the HO are willing live with certain look of unfinished basement.  In this case, just put the j beads over the edge that will meet the joists.  The HO will have to understand few things, though, and make certain that they understand.

    The space between joists and bead will not come out even, this will accentuate the unfinished feeling.  Maybe HO saw a picture of million dollar loft with unfinished ceiling, but they may not know how much money went into making it look that way.

    The rim joist will show and usually this should be insulated.  Insulation will not look clean cut.

    Ducts should have all seams taped and paint may not stick properly to ducts and tape.  I noticed that some ducts are also coated with oil.  Ducts will have to be cleaned well and primed with metal paint, at least.  This is extra cost.

    All the nails that stick out from floor above, holes in the framing, split wood, knots and splinters  will be noticed. 

    The wood will absorb a lot of paint.  I would charge the material and labor on time spent and the finish that HO want.

    Try Kilz oil based primer that's made for low odor and can be used indoors.  This primer dries quickly so don't expect smooth finish and don't use it on drywall or trim if expecting smooth finish.  It would cost extra to clean the spray painter, as well.  Hand paint a section of joist and subfloor and show the HO what it will look like.  I did this with my own basement for experiment and Kilz may give you good result with 1 coat of primer.

    If the reason for exposed joists is for height, try suggesting wrapping the joist about 3 inches from bottom with 1x wood and just dropping the drywall cut to fit between the joists and to rest on the 1x wood.  Finish the edge with thin MDF.  This is like a drop ceiling so you have to leave enough room on top to maneuver the ceiling material.  I may not be explaining this clearly enough but you can search for how-to on drop ceiling for the detail.  I plan to do my basement ceiling this way.  I rerouted all electric wires to the side for this reason.  Gas, water and duct pipes will be exposed, but mine are all short, straight runs.  I have 2 recessed lights and I expect them to be a bit more trouble to install but not very much from a regular drop ceiling.

    Hope this helps and good luck.

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