coupla weeks back … I was walking thru a home depot … and saw a hybred saw horse I thot might be useful. Checked the price and at $35/per … decided to pass.
about a week or so later … I was knee deep in “beam installation” …
and suddenly that $35/per was down right cheap!
I remembered the tag said each one held 750 lbs … and seeing as how we had plans to carry in 500lbs/each of steel flitch plates … and it sure would be nice to have a place to set them down to reset hand positions … they suddenly made sense.
so … I bought two.
$70 plus tax for a set of saw horses … never spent better money!
They’re an “X” shape … with a little “table” that sits on the top and locks in.
at one point … we had one next to a ladder …holding Joe at 175lbs and Brian at 250 or so … and Joe and Brian were lifting the heavy end of that 500lbs steel plate.
I later used one as a makeshift chop saw stand for my dewalt 705 … but … the top was a bit small for that on a regular basis.
Over all … great stands. Have had a coupla buddies ask to borrow them for various projects. A big benefit … they fold flat to ride in the van … and the tops clip into the frames for transport.View Image
Jeff
Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
Edited 12/10/2005 4:13 am ET by JeffBuck
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Ok, you sold me. Going to depot tomorrow. At 750 pounds holding strength, that's enought to support me times three.
saw those on the diynetwork show
wondered if they were any good.
bobl Volo, non valeo
Baloney detecter
Jeff, that's crazy to lift a heavy load on those. I wouldn't do it, nor would I allow it.
The problem I see is stability, or rather a lack of stability.
I'm not fond of plastics ratings but I'll admit that the ratings are probably good. My site builts don't have a rating so I guess I fool myself into believing that they are more stable. I have tested my sawhorses under some heavy loads though but I always lift while simultaneously providing some sort of fixed safety procedures. I'm not big on fixing disasters.
Like I said, those don't impress me with their stability factor.
blue
the weight-bearing capacity appears to be mainly in the aluminum legs. With essentially 5 support legs, seems like any load is directly over at least one of the legs at all times. I might like two of these to support my jobsite workbench. Here's the linkedited to add: Oops - guess you have to type "Husky sawhorse" into the search slot in the upper right hand corner!
Edited 12/10/2005 11:10 pm by Huck
"I wouldn't do it, nor would I allow it."
sissy!
Jeff Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
I have to say I was skeptical when I saw that 750 lbs rating. I checked 'em out at HD and it says 750 lbs. They look very stable.
Thanks for the info on 'em. If I need any I'd not hesitate to get those.
"All men's miseries derive from not being able to sit in a quiet room alone." Pascal
IC
I was in HD down in New Braunfels today and damn near tripped over one of them, then I realized what they were!
I didn't give em the stability test but they look adequate.
Have you seen the map over in (67049.1) gen. discussions?
Better get in on the ground floor or all the good spots will be taken.
Doug
I'm there now. (map)
Have you been out to Jack's lately?
"All men's miseries derive from not being able to sit in a quiet room alone." Pascal
Jacks?
refresh my memory
Doug
You probably know Jacks.
Justa beer joint.
Down on Hunter Road in SM.
"All men's miseries derive from not being able to sit in a quiet room alone." Pascal
I am not questioning the holding capacity but how can you call them saw horses.
You must be having too much of that GM food lately.
I've had one for a few months now and it sure is handy. With a saw horse - you always need two of them and then a top of some sort, with these, one'll do and it has a built in top.
I've used mine for just about everything,; the other day used it as a base for one end of the 8-16" aluminum plank I had setup under a large deck for some maintenance.
Nice quick tabletop.
JT
Too bad it is made in China...
So is probably every other saw horse sold in HD and Lowes I'd bet.JT
Not a very good pic, but you can see my saw horse made in Pennsylvania.
I'm with blue though, I'm not sure what the weight rating is.
I also use those sheet metal folding saw horses. I've been using them for 5 years or so, and no problems. Just change the 2x screwed to the top occasionally.---------------------
Swimming through the ashes of another life, no real reason to accept the way things have changed. Wrapped in guilt, sealed up tight.
dustin--------
I make my saw horses pretty much the same way( kind of stole a design from a Norm Abrams book)
I can tell you I have OFTEN had 30-40 sheets of osb stacked on 'em.
Making the legs out of 1x6 or 1x8---whatever I have. scrap plywood or osb gussets, 2x6 or 2x8 top---------the wider that top the more it can act like a workbench.
One suggestion---nail or screw a 1x6 on the sides of the legs running in the same direction as the top piece. the saw horse will then allow 2 tier staging, also act as a step to climb up on to the top of the horse, or allow for a temp shelf Under the horses------makes 'em WAY more versatile
I make one of each pair a little smaller---so they stack. Actually I currently have 4 which nest inside each other to save storage space.
also---stole the design for a pair of folding horses which open and close perfectly with ONE hand--they almost pack themselves. They are my personal horses---- I built em out of redwood and they exist primarily to serve as a stand for my sheet metal brake--------- I would fire any sub or employee in an instant that ever dared try to actually SAW on these horses LOL
Stephen
Yeah, I stole the design from This Old House. My old design was more complex, and wouldn't stack.
I'll have to add the extra 1X.---------------------
Swimming through the ashes of another life, no real reason to accept the way things have changed. Wrapped in guilt, sealed up tight.
dustin,
when I was up in Boston this summer I saw a variation of "our" design
the plywood gusset was placed on the inside of the legs---and then a little shelf was run in the resulting " cubbyhole"
I figured it might be just the thing to set a circ. saw on
might limit the stackability 'tho.
Stephen
Now I agree with Blue ... no way I'm gonna stand on top of that little pony and shoulder half of a 500lbs steel plate ... and lift!
don't care if there's a new 2x4 on top either ...
Jeff Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
I'm not greedy enough to lift anything that heavy. ;-)---------------------
Swimming through the ashes of another life, no real reason to accept the way things have changed. Wrapped in guilt, sealed up tight.
This pic shows half a horse. I'd be willing to bet that a pair of them would easily hold a ton without any modifications. They are built out of rs spruce 1 x 4 legs and spf 2x4 tops. They take five minutes. The jey feature is that they MUST be built to receive the framing square. I haven't met a rookie yet that has built them the first time to receive the square. Of course, they get a failing grade then and aren't allowed to be a "traveling" horse. I cut them in half at the end of the job.
If I add a simply 1x4 spreader on the legs, I think these would hold two tons.
Anyone want to do a load test? I'll put a bunk of studs on mine if you'll do that to yours?
Incidently, that worker is a fairly new hire from Guatemala. He is awesome. He's my table framing partner.
blue
Too bad it is made in China...
So, you have nothing in your home or business that isn't made, at least in part, in China?
And is that the only problem you see with this product, where it is made? I'll remake it for $500 and take you order when you get up this morning. LOL
Actually, I own very little stuff made in China. I go out of my way and avoid it as much as possible. It is getting more difficult to do that though, and people are stupid enough to wonder where the jobs are....
Yes, I do have American Made sawhorses. Heavy duty metal ones with adjustable legs for around $30 each. I think they are called "Tote a Horse".
I can buy domestic black pipe fittings and black pipe for around 10% more at the supply house than the Chinese crap at the local Big Box.
Unless you have worked in retail and are able to compare the wholesale prices on similar products made in China and the USA, you will never know just how badly you are being screwed on the imported stuff.
The stores make money on the domestic product- but not anywhere as much as they do when they sell out the USA and source Chinese made product.
Those nifty Husky horses could be sourced here, probably for similar pricing.
It's all about the greed.
But its not just products that are made overseas, or the manufacturing outsourced to overseas. And why China alone?
For instance, a lot of the so-called Japanese electronics can be tracked back to non-Japanese origins. My Amex customer service is in India, but at least the quality of it beats the ISP's idea of Indian customer service.
I agree its all about the greed, but its also all about consumers more willing to take a 'discounted' price than not.
Yes, consumers are ultimateley the source of the problem. If people chose to spend wisely and not search for the cheapest at any cost, there would be no need for Wal Mart.
Based on trade deficits, the majority of stuff shipped to the USA comes from China. I realize there are other countries on the planet, but China is the big one for manufacturing.
Not too many people trumpeting about that great deal they just got on a German made tool.
Yup, lots of electronics with Japanese names is made elsewhere. I do not believe in conspicuous consumption, and the number of consumer electronic devices in my home is not large- just the basics, and I don't replace it every year with the "latest and greatest".
If Chinese wasn't so difficult to learn, I bet most of the jobs sourced to India requiring human interaction would be going to China.
"It's all about the greed."
no it's not. It's actually about finding a set of horses that'll support up to 750 each the nite before ya have to set a coupla steel plates and big lvl's that weight in at around 500 each for the steel plates ...
Greed? Hell ... I under-charged for that job just because I felt sorry for the SOB home owners ... no greed involved here.
Plus ... they fold.
what's greed have to do with them folding flat for easy storage?
more room so if I'm greedy I can fit more into the van ... ?
Jeff Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
Not greed on your part, greed on the part of the companies doing the outsourcing.
My Milky Ways I like so much are coming from Canada. What's up with that?
In no particular order....
How tall are they?
If they could be sourced in America for the same money...why aren't they?
America had some pretty poorly made, and crudely designed cars until the honda company showed us what was possible...not that they deserve all the credit, but ....our automotive companies were/are all about the next quarter, and got away with whatever they could...all about the greed, indeed....Jake Gulick
[email protected]
CarriageHouse Design
Black Rock, CT
The reason your Milky Ways are coming from Canada is there is a stiff import tariff on sugar but not candy. The US price for sugar is way above the world price, so that we can prop up US sugar producers without spending a lot of tax dollars.
So is WD-40 and Lava soap.
Canada rocks!
"All men's miseries derive from not being able to sit in a quiet room alone." Pascal
Lot of good stuff from Canada.
Sorry..... but no self respecting tradesman would use a POS like that. For one thing they look too low to work off of and too high to step onto. It would only work on a slab or a floor. On dirt, where a lot of us work it would be very unstable. Even at 35 bucks it is too much. You can't roll a beam on those.
I can make a pair of horses for free from salvaged material that can hold a pair of 6.5"x 24"x24' GLBs. You can roll the beams over and the horses can hold em. They go on the rack on my truck. They don't fold.
If anyone showed up on the job with a pair of those.... Well ...I don't know anyone that lame.
Now here is a real horse.
what saw horse?
that guy is standing on the ground ... U can't fool me!
BTW ... U insinuate one more time that I'm "self-respecting" and we're gonna have problems buddy ....
Jeff Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
do you ever have anything constructive to say? or are you always a dick?
seems I remember several times of you just being a dick?
why is that? low self confidence? mom suckle you too much or not enough? were you a bed wetter? picked on by bullies? overly short? all the above?
I mean what gives?
Sorry if I made you whine and cry. My review was a little scathing. That's the way I talk too. I use my real name so if you want to come get me you can. You can call me names on the internet hiding behind your cute anonymous handle. I don't care. You could use that handy ignore function if I annoy you that much.
I keep thinking that I am addressing a bunch of carpenters but I guess not. Most carpenters I know would make a horse or a work table if they needed one. If you are not a carpenter then maybe you might want that plastic thing. I wouldn't dignify it by calling it a horse.Mike Callahan, Lake Tahoe, Ca.
sorry buddy, just asking what I thought to be some legit questions about why your personality sucks....
and unless you're blind or just plain stupid I'm not hiding behind an annoynomous name, I've used my name here several times, it's Neil Gaskin, I'm KS, you want to be a little punk and try to call me out telling me I can come find you? get real, at your age I doubt you could handle it.
by the way, you read my message yesterday, it took you a day and a half to come back that response?
Edited 12/14/2005 10:39 am ET by CAGIV
Edited 12/14/2005 10:39 am ET by CAGIV
Dammit Neil, you go making sh!t out of his age so I go see how old he is, christ he's younger then me!!!
I come through Kansas after Christmas and you better be waiting for me! If you look to mean I'll just throw something out of the car window at ya.
Doug
Buck, regarding the "sawhorses" whatever it takes to get the job done. Hell I've stood on milk crates before, even stacked them two high!
Yeah, but your not a dick..
and I look anything but mean
Sorry Neil, but your little hissy tantrums are a very low priority. I got a busy life and it doesn't involve a lot of sitting at the keyboard. I browse by this forum for a minute or two usually but I would rather spend my time elsewhere. Go ahead... Have another conniption and I may get back to you in a day or so.
I guess you are not a carpenter but a really nice boy with a desk job with very pasty face nice people because otherwise you would not be so offended by the way I write. I work all day with nice people too but we cuss a lot and laugh a lot too. We might even be laughing at your expense tomorrow. I don't claim to be anyones role model. If you think my personality sucks than I could care less. I still think that thingy is a POS. Live with it.
Get up, move away from the computer, remove your pocket protecter and get a life.
Mike Callahan, Lake Tahoe, Ca.
Dearest Mr Callahan...
where do you get the idea I'm having a "hissy" or a "tantrum" I call you a dick, and you accuse me of whining? Insulting maybe, but not whining...and I'm not offended, truly I'm just curious what event in your life turned you into such a little bitch
and I got a life, and a desk job, no pocket protector though...and guess what, I can be a carpenter too...
your real saw horses.... I got a dumbass laborer who could build those, so I'm not all that impressed
face the facts, you are a dick, more likely then not a broke dick carpenter past your prime who has nothing productive to add a converstion other then your own bitching and whining.
as for me? I'm done with you.
later
oh and one more thing... if you really didn't give a rats #### what I thought.. why do you keep coming back and replying to me ?.
Is that guy related to Tucker Carlson?
Merry Christmas
Cliffy
Just out of curiousity, have you ever read any Dale Carnegie books?
Jon Blakemore RappahannockINC.com Fredericksburg, VA
Ha ha, thanks-that made me laugh out loud. Maybe someday I'll know a little something.
Depends on your needs, I guess. Actually they are about the perfect height for most things you need a temp tabletop for.That's ok though, if anybody came to my worksite with the piece of crap looking saw horse in that picture, I'd tell him to get in his rust-bucket truck, pick up the beer bottles that fell out through the holes in his floorboards when he pulled up and go work at someone else's jobsite. And by the way, your tailgate needs another chunk of rope on it - it's hanging at a bit of an angle.JT
I didn't see these at Depot when I stopped in there this morning. Found lots of things to play with, but not these. I wonder if this is a regional offering? I'll try the depot near my workplace.
LOl Julian, tell us how you really feel!
I had to go back and look for the truck, thinking I missed it but then I figured out that it was a fabric of your imagination.
I did notice that those horses didn't have a slot of the framing square. I'd burn them in the fire bucket!
blue
Just having a little fun seeing as how he was talking up that fine looking horse and doggin the new fangled one.JT
I like those angles on your horses Mike, but they are built much too heavy for an old guy with a bad back.
blue
I saw those, never gave them a good look though... might have to now..
not to re-hash old wounds, but what ever happened in your "beam installation" ?
came down to the "additional work" invoice ...
by then ... the home owners were plenty annoyed with everyone ...
which, I don't blame them. Did blame them from trying to get free work out of it, though. Told them ... about 10 times ... ask JoAnne ... (the designer) ... as I'd gladly do all their extra-extra's ... but not for free ... I didn't overlook their load bearing wall!
anyways ... my final invoice ... $800 ....
the owner of the company said he'd send me $500 ...
at which point I was planning on photocopying it and sending it right back.
The day the check hit my mailbox ... Cath got back from the dentist ...
$1,200 in debt!
so ... $500 in hand was looking better than $800 sometime in Feb ...
figured I could make up the $300 difference by working one day that I'd eventially have to take off to go to court ...
so ... the a$$hole got over on one.
But ... I been spreading the good word ever since.
BTW ... I used one of those horses today for a temp chop saw stand ...
just to piss everyone off!
Jeff Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
jeff, send him a bill for the other 300.
talk lien to the homowners.
Make a few waves.A great place for Information, Comraderie, and a sucker punch.
Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.
Quittin' Time
U guys from Ohio must all think alike ...
that's what Hubcap said too.
OK ... two votes in ... guess it's time to type that second invoice and get the lien papers filled out ...
at the very least ... I'll be annoying the aholes.
Jeff Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
A third vote from ohio Jeff.
I'm with Calvin, even if they are empty threats, they may get you your money, and if not you're only out a few minutes instead of a day in court...
Tried again today to get this product. This time even the hardware guy I've known for five years at this HD was surprised his endcap was void of them and filled with something else. He checked his inventory and 16 were due on Tuesday.
we having XMas Eve at out place this year ... need another table ...
thinking about setting up both and laying a sheet of ply on top.
toggle both thu the top somewhere ... one table cloth later ....
bam ... done!
Jeff Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
Sawhorses - 42" L x 36"H Galvanized Steel Pair$89.9928SH4236-2
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Galvanized Steel Sawhorses"Built Tough for Years of Daily Rugged Use"
16 ga galvanized steel frame and legs
Legs angle two directions for increased stability
Spring-loaded leg locking pins
Non-skid nylon feet
Compatible accessories available
1000 lbs. capacity per pair
Can you buy those pikers online?
Sure can. Here's the link Just type "Husky sawhorse" into the search slot in the upper right hand corner.
Oops - just noticed on the website: "Backordered Online - Check Your Local Store".
beats me ...
but almost found yet another use for them ... xmas eve dinner here ... needed extra seating ... the plan all along ... either those horses and a sheet of ply cut down ... or that sheet of ply and some 2x legs ...
office max had a 30x60 folding table for $35 ... that settled things.
almost as cheap as I could make it ... and instant set up.
the horses stayed in the van ...
Jeff Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
Hey Jeff, I was just about to post something over on Knots about if anyone ever found an article, object, etc. cheaper to buy than to make. For instance, wife is need of some shallow (2-shelf) shoe racks that she could line the perimeter of her closet. Then I came across a department store selling cedar show racks that seemed to fit the bill, about 35-36" long, and $29 each.
I'm sitting here asking myself is it really worth my time to 'make' them rather than buy them. I mean, if we never adopt any of life's conveniences we'd be still using the outhouse and carrying water into the log cabin.
all the time I find things cheaper to buy than make.
especially since I have no shop ... and the front porch is cold this time of year!
coupla years ago we decided we needed a hutch for the kitchen.
was all set on building a Hoosier ... was already set up on a big remodeling job ... could make good use of the space ... plus any daily down time and with an extra hour at the end of each day ... I'd be set.
Then ... we went to Lancaster, PA ... checked out a store that sells Amish furniture ... and they had a beautiful piece ... the perfect size ... for $400.
I figured a coupla hundred bucks for lumber ... plus ... all the hardware ...
then thot about the time involved.
So we bought it on the spot.
"Amish built" doesn't mean hand-crafted ... just means they plugged the compressor in the shop next door and ran all pneumatic tools ... but it was and still is a nicely built "all wood" piece of furniture. Either break ever or slightly cheaper than I coulda made.
Jeff Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
Make them yourself for sure. Then you can justify some new tools to the wife.
I think this must be a popular product. I didn't get a chance to get into HD last Tuesday-Wednesday when they were suppose to have gotten 16 more, but today I stopped there and they had sold them all. Dang! Maybe HD or Husky needs to raise the price.