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Installing crown on a curved wall

| Posted in General Discussion on October 1, 2000 04:35am

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Lou, your question is very interesting because I just had to do the same thing with a Cherry crown in a 2 story foyer with 2 curved walls. The solution is not easy, is very time consuming and generally a pain in the butt. Determine your crowns’ pitch and put a bunch of pitch blocks on the wall(we went every 8 inches)then rip your crown profile into narrow bands.We went every 3/4 inch but your paticular profile and its detail lines may dictate where you rip. The narrow bands will bend around your wall. Glue and stack the bands back together around the curve,nailing to your pitch blocks. Some sanding will be required to clean it up but it works great. Obviously you will need extra material because you lose a saw kerf with each rip, so be very particular about your grain matching. If you are not doing a naturally finished material, I strongly suggest looking into the rubber products. Good luck.

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  1. Guest_ | Oct 04, 2000 01:41am | #14

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    anybody got any ideas on installing 6" and 12" crown on a curved wall? The wall radius is approx. 10'. I know it involves kerfing the backside , but does anybody have any tips.

    1. Guest_ | Sep 27, 2000 09:35pm | #1

      *Hi Lou,Wet it down before you try to bend it, otherwise the thin face layer will crack or even snap.Kerfing will make the bending much easier, but pieces that are dry will still snap. So have a lot of patience and all will be swell. swell get it...don't try to fit the rest to it until it has dried, otherwise the gap may be severe after a couple of days.Gabe

      1. Guest_ | Sep 27, 2000 09:52pm | #2

        *Lou,

        I think Gabe my have misinterpreted your statement. Sometimes he's preoccupied about where the next attack might come from through no fault of his own. I'm sure he'll realize that you can't kerf our crown to bend around the wall.

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        1. Guest_ | Sep 27, 2000 10:06pm | #3

          *Hi Joe, not worried about the attacks but I was daydreaming. It's been one of those days that been lasting for the past 3 weeks and will continue until Oct. 10, when I hand over one half of the project.Your absolutely right. I was thinking flat stock material that could be kerfed from behind that would bend flat around a radius as opposed to a crown which is angled on a fortyfive or such.Lou, I'm sorry, when you asked about bending it and what you could do in addition to kerfing I forgot that you were talking about crown mouldings.Is this an existing moulding that is being replaced or matching an existing moulding?You can make up nice crown mouldings by using several smaller mouldings and glueing them to form a radius or straigth walls. Would need to see your moulding profile before swallowing my other foot.Gabe

          1. Guest_ | Sep 27, 2000 11:39pm | #4

            *Gabe,

            No problem buddy, I knew what you were referring too. I just thought I bring it to your attention before it became fodder for the beasts. . .

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          2. Guest_ | Sep 27, 2000 11:48pm | #5

            *What about using the artificial wood products? Or is it a foam? Wasn't there an article in FHB about 2 years ago from a trim carpenter in Georgia that did a large house with the foam stuff?

          3. Guest_ | Sep 28, 2000 01:51am | #6

            *Ed,

            There is a product that goes by the name of "Flex Mould", but I believe that both Focal Point and Fypon both make something similar. They can make any moulding you specify, all you need do is supply them the radius and whether it's an inside or outside one.Obviously, these mouldings are meant to be painted, but some can be stained. This is by no means an "inexpensive" alternative. If your moulding is going to be painted, make it out of plaster.

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          4. Guest_ | Sep 28, 2000 03:11am | #7

            *Give the BT 'Search' function a try. This has been discussed here before.

          5. Guest_ | Sep 29, 2000 06:54am | #8

            *Dear Lou, I have purchased a flexible moulding in the past (rubber I think)it was only available in limited profiles(2-1/4 colonial etc.) which is fine as long as your not trying to match some existing stock or trying too tight an arc.If it can't be found you tell your client that regretibly all things are in fact not always possible...god that's hard to say.Larry S

          6. Guest_ | Sep 29, 2000 06:52pm | #9

            *Lou,This sounds like an ideal situation to try your hand a creating a plaster crown if you've got the time. It really looks like fun when I've seen it done.This is interior crown, right?Craig

          7. Guest_ | Sep 30, 2000 03:38am | #10

            *you:There is an article about building a curved porch on page 100 of the March 1999 addition of Fine Home Building. It has step by step instructions on how to do a curved moulding....the porch the guy was building looks great.Regards,halt

          8. Jim_Macko | Oct 01, 2000 04:35pm | #11

            *Lou, your question is very interesting because I just had to do the same thing with a Cherry crown in a 2 story foyer with 2 curved walls. The solution is not easy, is very time consuming and generally a pain in the butt. Determine your crowns' pitch and put a bunch of pitch blocks on the wall(we went every 8 inches)then rip your crown profile into narrow bands.We went every 3/4 inch but your paticular profile and its detail lines may dictate where you rip. The narrow bands will bend around your wall. Glue and stack the bands back together around the curve,nailing to your pitch blocks. Some sanding will be required to clean it up but it works great. Obviously you will need extra material because you lose a saw kerf with each rip, so be very particular about your grain matching. If you are not doing a naturally finished material, I strongly suggest looking into the rubber products. Good luck.

          9. Guest_ | Oct 01, 2000 05:44pm | #12

            *You know railing bending stock is available that comes as a kit of bands ready to bend and glue...Maybe mouldings are available like that too?near the stream,aj

          10. Guest_ | Oct 02, 2000 11:38pm | #13

            *b WBA At Your ServiceDear Lou, Shouldn't you be busy coaching football, not nailing radius crown ?

          11. Guest_ | Oct 04, 2000 01:41am | #15

            *lou,Try your local lumber mill. I'm talking about the kind of place that sells custom moldings, not just the off-the-rack stuff. We have a couple around here. They can cut the strips for you, and even give you a quik primer in how to install it. Call around!John

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