My local Dunn-Edwards paint store in Pasadena, Ca is phasing out their oil based paint, sales guy said you’ll no longer be able to buy oil-based paint, only water based will be available. He said California is eliminating oil-based paints first and that the ‘law’ will spread eventually accoss the US. Is this true ? Said there will be water based paints that are just as durable but sounds impossible.
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paint store here in NY will no longer sell to contractors or homeowners.
They can still sell to industry though.
I thought calif was ahead of this five years ago or more. It has been two years here now that you can only buy it as quarts ( or was it pints) for touch up
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Can still buy gallons of Rust-O-Luem here.
Get a Peach full,easy feelin'.
The oils can go as long as I can still get Xylene based concrete sealers. There is nothing like high you get from that stuff. Work without a mask even for a brief time and soon tiny little men are helping you apply the finish.
Yeah, I always finish that job with a great big smile on my face!But the hangover is wicked
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From what I've heard the high you get isn't really a high. It has something to do with hemoglobin in your blood. Oxygen usually is picked up by it in the lungs but most if not all the chemicals like xylene attach to the hemoglobin first so the oxygen doesn't get into your bloodstream.
So basically your brain is starving for oxygen. I guess that feels like a high but I'd put it in a dumb/cheap/stupid high. If you were going to rate it.
That's what kids huffing chemicals are doing. Starving their brain for oxygen.
is that the reason I found the painter passed out after working with it all day?
Maybe. I've seen guys get pretty goofy. I've seen a couple of guys painting in a grease pit. I guess the fumes sink so they filled up the pit. The guys started painting eachother. As they got paint on their clothes they started taking them off. One guy had some paint put on his private parts and he tried to get it off with mineral spirits. Bad idea.
We had a painter a few years ago that loved his coke, We found him one morning in a closet on the jobsite mumbleing to himself.
We used to cover for his wife by saying the paint really got to him.
Nice guy, spent mth. in rehab and is fine today.
All jokes aside, Xylene is horrible. The first time I bought a can it had a faulty lid and although I only spilled a couple of tablespoons in my truck, by the time I got home I was sick as a dog. My main floor is stained concrete that after 10 years needs re-sealing. I keep putting it off because I just can't figure out the logistics of working with such volatile chemicals with family and pets in a completely furnished house
I was told at my local SW that I can only buy gallon sizes of interior oil enamel made with a new formula that has very little solvents in it. It took 6 hours to tack up (not dry to touch) I asked if i could add thinner to it to speed up the dry time SW rep said "I have to say no cuz that's against the law, but you can still buy the old formula in quart sizes" ?????? Anyway, all the big box stores have gotten rid of all oil except for stain blocking primer like Kilz.
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I'm sorta curious about this because I prefer oil over latex for trim and such, hate to see it disappear.
Doug
I'm in NY. You can only buy the original formula oil based SW in quarts.
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SW, yup, just like you said, only mine took about 3 days to dry!!, no smell, and only avail in gloss
Your sales guy is a couple of years behind. Theres a bunch of states where oil based paint is already being phased out, usually only available in qt sizes (for awhile), and eventually will probably be gone altogether. Better get used to it.
Yes it has a history.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_paint
I'm in CT, I've been wielding a brush and painting oil all day.
I can still buy oil from Pratt & Lambert and another line called Martin Senour from our local shop.
A couple weeks ago I needed primer on the weekend, Home Depot sells oil primer.
I bought a quart of oil based polyurethane today from the Ace hardware store. Painting exterior doors.
Don't those nails interfere with the doors performance?
; )
J. D. Reynolds
Home Improvements
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I didn't say anything but figured someone would notice. These have a screw on the end so I can just screw them out. As soon as I hang these doors I'm calling for final. I think I've played with this job enough. I can tend to strech things out at the end of a job.
The imminent death of oil based paint has been around for at least 15 years, probably longer. Places like California and New Jersey have had at least some restrictions and products specially formulated for may years. Oil based products are still readily available here in Ohio. they may be formulated slightly differently than they were forty years ago but they have not be made non-functional. Will they be eliminated here someday? Maybe, but I won't bet on it happening any time real soon.
The paint company R&D labs have greatly reduced the performance differences between the oil and water based products in many categories. I don't want to give up my oil based exterior primers but while I recognize that oil based paint on interior trim does level better, the premium latexes aren't bad anymore and if I am painting white, I know that five years from now it will still be white.