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1. 
   zendo | May 11, 2005 08:33pm | #1

   Screwdriver.

   Actually, Ive done well with a artists palette knife (-it has a thin semi dull blade)

   I just a week ago did this in a house that also had floor wax over the paint.

   If you wanted a chem, I dont think acetone or fingernail polish remover would hurt it any.... you could try in a closet or under stove or fridge.

   otherwise you will have to match it with your sharpies.

   -zen

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   ripmeister | May 11, 2005 09:10pm | #2

   generally, like disolves like, that is, find a solvent that is the solvent base in whatever it is you ar trying to clean.  If I recall Kilz is an alcohol base shellac.  If that is correct get some denatured alcohol and try that.  If the Kilz solvent is organic try paint thinner etc.  I've had success with "OOPS" on water based products.

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   IMERC | May 11, 2005 09:32pm | #3

   any solvents generally dissolve the flooring long before the paint..

   other than turps...

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   WOW!!!   What a Ride!

   Forget the primal scream,  just ROAR!!!

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   JohnT8 | May 11, 2005 09:57pm | #4

   Is it actually linoleum, or vinyl?  I tend to use the terms interchangeably.  Hate it when some codger correct me (what a MEANT was vinyl, not linoleum, and YES I know they are two different things!)           : )

   As zendo was saying, you might just be able to scrape it up.  If you scratch it with a fingernail, does it come off?  If so, you might try a putty knife.  Nothing too heavy duty.

   I'm not as brave about using chemicals.

    

    

   jt8

   It's better to light a candle than to curse the darkness. --Chinese proverb  

4. 
   AndyEngel | May 11, 2005 11:15pm | #5

   Household ammonia dissolves shellac quite nicely. Try that before the alcohol.

   Andy Engel

   Senior editor, Fine Woodworking magazine

   Other people can talk about how to expand the destiny of mankind. I just want to talk about how to fix a motorcycle. I think that what I have to say has more lasting value. --Robert M. Pirsig

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   zendo | May 12, 2005 02:08am | #6

   Well for everyones knowledge,

   Kilz made both shellac and oil based stainblock primer.  I think they still do.

   -zen

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   BarryE | May 12, 2005 02:30am | #7

   who you talking to zendo? <g>Kilz Original was developed as an oil base as an alternative to Zinzers shellac based product. Here's Kilz MSDS sheets..I can't find it but I might be overlooking and my memory is receding. <g>kilz

   Barry E-Remodeler

    

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   goldhiller | May 12, 2005 06:37am | #8

   Whether the Kilz is the water-based stuff or the original......try naphtha.......but do a test in an inconspicous area first to make sure it's "safe".

   Original Kilz =

   Ingredients from MSDS/Label
   Chemical CAS No / Unique ID Percent
   Talc (non-fibrous) 014807-96-6 15-30
   Titanium dioxide 013463-67-7 5-15
   Solvent naphtha, petroleum, medium aliphatic 064742-88-7 14.94
   Solvent naphtha, petroleum, light aliphatic 064742-89-8 21.29
   Linseed oil, polymer with pentaerythritol, phthalic anhydride, soybean oil, styrene and vinyltoluene 071243-64-6 15-25

   Edit: Timing might be everything in this instance. X number of seconds should remove fresh Kilz BUT more might be detrimental to the linoleum. Watch your watch, so to speak. Wash right away with detergent and water when you finish.

   As Imerc suggested, turps or mineral spirits might be safer for both.
   I'd try those first and if they don't do it........move to the naphtha, but don't wait three days to try it.

   Knowledge is power, but only if applied in a timely fashion.

   Edited 5/11/2005 11:41 pm ET by GOLDHILLER

   
   

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   Edited 5/11/2005 11:53 pm ET by GOLDHILLER

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   rez | May 12, 2005 07:37am | #9

   Thanks much. I'll let y'all know how it went when it comes time.

   Unfortunately I'm far beyond the three day period and it is old linoluem not vinyl. Surprisingly durable stuff.

   I've been working on an old rental farmhouse that has turned into a runaway train. The closer I looked the worse it got and I find myself backing up from original ideas to a more practical mode. bwaa!

   So when I did the kitchen ceiling I was inattentive,  thinking the floor covering would be replaced with something.

   With the arrival of more time demanding pertinent concerns on the house I want to try a salvage operation on the old linoleum if it doesn't get too involved.

   More to come at a later date.

   be chasing an Amish girl

   sobriety is the root cause of dementia.

   Edited 5/12/2005 1:11 am ET by the razzman

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   EricPaulson | May 12, 2005 02:34pm | #10

   Scraper, or sandpaper. Coupla weeks you'll never see it.

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