My Ugly Brother (Griz) is thinking about replacing their sink and kitchen counters. He asked me how much it cost to get one of those sinks that’s molded into the counter top material. That’s not something I have any experience with, so I figured I’d ask y’all.
They’re not thinking about replacing the cabinets – Just the counter/sink. Offhand I’d guess that have 16′ of countertop (Measured along the wall) I assume they will want a double bowl sink, if you can get those in the molded stuff.
Can anyone give me a rough idea what a countertop like that would go for? I really don’t have any idea, and there’s no cabinet place in town that I can call.
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I don't know if this information is going to apply to a kitchen sink/countertop situation:
I do know that a bathroom sink moulded into the solid surface countertop is often more costly than a natural stone top (depending on the natural stone) and an undermount sink. Atleast in the Milwaukee area that holds pretty true.
I just had another thought to add....
We've recently priced out countertops for a kitchen project several ways: Corian, Silestone (engineered quartz surface), Granite and Marble
The Corian and Silestone were more expensive than either the Granite or Marble by about $600-800. The Marble was slightly (by maybe 200) less than the Granite. Again, it will depend on what type of natural stone is selected.
What this information doesn't take into account is the sink cost....
I appreciate the thoughts, but - I have no idea what countertops cost in general, or what to tell him this might cost. I was just looking for a WAG of a price for him. Something along the lines of this:http://www.familyhomeplans.com/images/documents/WireWareSink.jpg
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Pricing will depend upon his kitchen counter configuration. I looked up a little more information and it turns out I was a little incorrect in my second posting:
Corian priced out at either $56.21 or $62.16 per sq. foot (with a 3" backsplash). There are different price levels for Corian, the Owners selected two different price levels which is why I listed two different prices.
Carrera marble countertops priced out at $87.24 per sq. foot (with a 4" backsplash)
Bianco Romano Granite priced out at $91.51 (with a 4" backsplash)
Zodiaq (engineered quartz solid surface by Dupont which is the same manufacturer as Corian) priced out at $112.45 per sq. foot (with a 3" backsplash)
You'd need to add to those prices the cost of a sink - We had a stainless steel one quoted to us at $250. The Owner ended up wanting a fireclay sink (sort of like procelain) so I didn't really pursue trying to find a more economical sink.
Also, different natural stone fabricators will provide different prices for the same material selection, so it would pay to shop around. Our prices might be better than the average homeowner can negotiate.
Jen
Thanks for the info - That oughta get them pretty close. Didn't nkow that stuff was so danged expensive. (Which is why I asked)
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If price is an object (and usually seems to be), start from this. Pull up the lowes/hd closest to the bother's location. Price up two 8' lengths of postform, and a 33" 18ga sink. That will give you a baseline to compare from (and it varies by location).
Ok, Lowes is showing about $100 a stick, sink runs about $100-200; round that to about $500 for the kitchen--not including a new faucet for the sink, which could double or triple the price.
I have the nice condition of having two cultured marble joints in town, which keeps them honest, but the best they can do for kitchen sink & counterop looks to be about $300-400. After dealing with splashes and such, probably close to $7-800 for the kitchen.
Neither of those include labor, tear-out, dump fees, or any mark up at all.
Help any?
Sounds like you're talknig about ammetal sink? They're thinknig about one where the sink is molded out of the same material as the countertop.You said "Lowes is showing about $100 a stick". A stick of what exactly?
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Sounds like you're talknig about ammetal sink? They're thinknig about one where the sink is molded out of the same material as the countertop.
Yep. did that on purpose, having done this one too many times, started from self-rimming metal sink in a post-form countertop--since that's about as fast and inexepensive as you can get.
Cultured or solid-surface integral sink runs to about 10x to 20x the price, therefore it gets opted "against' more than "for" in my experience.
You said "Lowes is showing about $100 a stick". A stick of what exactly?
"Stick" meaning an 8' or 10' length, typically 25' wide, of postform particle board countertop with edgeband and splash with pre-applied high-pressure laminate entire. Not hugely elegant, but nicely time efficient. You buy enough length as needed. You then cut to length, and add matching splash at on end and an edgeband at the other, and you're done. Decent range of colors at the big boxes--and not very bad for very simple kitchens (you want to avoid angles, corners, etc.)
Ok, it's used in apartments far too often, but is will make a servicable counter top in very little time (limiting that time the kitchen is out of service, which can be a very great "plus" for the Design Commitee).Occupational hazard of my occupation not being around (sorry Bubba)
Not a hijack, but I came across the thread and your note about countertops -
Job I'm doing right now, the owner is his own GC. He insists that he wants post formed, and that they look better than custom made (square edged mica). He's all keen on the fact that his are being custom made by Loew's. It's a question of perspective.
BTW - They estimate a week's waiting time. We will see.
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He's all keen on the fact that his are being custom made by Loew's. It's a question of perspective.
Isn't it always the case?
About five different small laminate shops that I can think of who can "do" measured-to-fit postform, and in any laminate color made. Usually for about the same price as retail box stores. Most of those shops can also do full-height laminate splash for about the same price. Usually, the only slow part is in getting the deck finished & ready for laminate.Occupational hazard of my occupation not being around (sorry Bubba)
Thanks for the explanation.I don't doubt that they'll change their mind once they hear the price. But my Brother has been very supportive of me recently, so I'm just trying to help him out.
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so I'm just trying to help him out.
No sweat. Been to "brother work" both good and bad, before.
Been to the "we want" versus "what we can afford" too.
Now, there's also a hybrid option out there that's spendy, but not outrageous. You need a good laminate/solid surface shop. You then select one of the 1/4" thick solid surface products. When you get to the sink, you over-size the cutout, and bond 1-1/2" solid surface material around that. That gives you a surface to which a solid-surface sink can be bonded. That gives you a bunch of the solid surface benefits, and not at the 15x-20x per s.f. price full thickness commands over plain laminate. But, it can be 4 or 5 times laminate price to use the 1/4 s/s.
Now, this can get slick, as you can weld all the s/s material together virtually seamlessly. After which, you can rout in some spiffy details if desired (back to needing a good shop for the work).Occupational hazard of my occupation not being around (sorry Bubba)
Our Corian counter cost about $150 / linear ft installed. The undermount Corian sink was about $500. We are midway between Balt. & Phila. to give you an idea of our market.
Edited 4/25/2008 10:33 am ET by bp21901
Thanks for the info. I sent an email to my Bro to let him know what I found out.
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Around here solid surfaces are going about $65 a sq. ft. and the simplest sink about $400. Both are installed prices. More if you want a backsplash and more if you want it coved and more if you want a trick looking edge.
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guessing $2.5K - $3K
Jeff
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During the short time I worked at a big box the integral Corian sinks were running in the $400-700 range plus the cost of the cutout. Corian here in north AL is generally available from about $55 per sf, installed, up into the $70's. Other solid surface manufacturers are going to be slightly less.
Since granite here is available in similar price ranges, most of my clients go that route in the kitchen with an undermount sink. Good quality S/S undermounts average about $350, but it's easy to shop these online for the better pricing.