Just a DIYer trying to do it right so as not to become mocked by piffin later in life. PO has done lots of interesting e- work thoughout my old house and I think I have undone most of it. But I have one last room that is about to get a “from the studs out” rework, and I have a safety question:
Should you ever be able to reach the light/fan switch while standing in the shower?
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NO
What if I have to stretch?
At least I wouldn't have it in our house. To many foolish people would try to use it. I belive the elec. code uses the 4' rule, same as GFI's but again I am not an electrician.
don't call me foolish!! I said I had to stretch :) [at least he didn't put it in the stall itself]
No!, I'm refering to the foolish people in our house. We're not related, are we? But the switch in the stall would be more conveniet.
You can get an air operated switch like they use on spas and garbage disposals.
Bill, what do you mean "air operated"?
It works when you blow air on it, like when you are using a hair dryer. Only suitable for bathroom use.
Bill, did you mean a kitchen pig? The switch is magnetically operated.
Told DW not to wear the magnetic bracelet when she washed dishes.
I don't know if you are old enough to remember SERVICE STATIONS.
They have a hose stretched out that was sealed on one end. The other connected to a pressure operated switch. So when you drove across the hose the pressure increased and it operated the swtich which in turn rings a bell and some one comes out and fills the gas tank, washes the windshield and check the oil.
Now I am sure that there are some younguns out there that are trying to track me down and my me committed that I can certainly dilusionsal, but I am telling you the truth. At one time that is the way SERVICE stations worked.
Anyway the air operated switch for garbage disposals and spas work similary.
They have sealed tubing that connects to a remote switch, in this case alternate action rather than monentary. And the user control is a buttom that puts a pulse of air pressure in the tubing.
http://www.homeclick.com/showpage.asp?itemid=122180
http://www.plumbingstore.com/airswitchdisposeroperator.html
I was just kidding Oldeblue, I knew what an air switch was. But the one I had in mind was something like these which are activated by a contiuous pressure.
http://www.packworld.com/articles/Products/16706.html
Now the air switch you talked about is for continous feed while the magnetic switch I talked about is for batch feed. We were both right. :)
What did you mean I wouldn't remember those trippers in a service station? It hasn't been that long since they disappeared...or...when was it?
Still no...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming
WOW!!! What a Ride!
What about a telephone? Last time I checked, they used electricity too.
WSJ
Hey Wj,
you really don't want to do this do you??
EricI Love A Hand That Meets My Own,
With A Hold That Causes Some Sensation.
Hey Wj,
you really don't want to do this do you??
Eric"
No I don't. Besides, I have problem with how "codes" are developed, adopted, and administered in some locals.
WSJ
Still NO..
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming
WOW!!! What a Ride!
It should be so far away that you couldn't even stretch, because stretching can cause you to fall over, which is also a hazard.
You could be like Kramer in Seinfeld and install a grabage disposal in the drain of the shower.
Skip the whole swithch thing all together and get your self a moisure activate switch ---Put one in the kids bathroom and now I don't have to worry about them not turning it on or off for that matter.
They also have a override switch below the sensor so it can still be turned on manully for.... well lets just you can turn it on manually. Mike
I placed a motion switch in our bathroom and I didn't turn the pages fast enough with the newspaper, light kept going out. Wife came in the bathroom when I was waving my hand to turn the back on, boy she thought I was weird!
That is next on the kids bath if they don't stop leaving the light on.
problem was with the shower they all like it steamy and not just in the shower ---the whole bathroom --well we didn't need that kind of humidity boost so in went the MOISTURE activated switch.
Before to long the GFI will have a timer on it so the hair dryer and curling iron won't stay on forever.
You know I'm starting to get ideas here. HHHHHMMMM! Yeah thats the ticket. Mike
Before to long the GFI will have a timer on it so the hair dryer and curling iron won't stay on forever.
Fan controller switch. Want the blow dryer on? Twist the knob.
Mind you, what is really needed for that application is a coin-operated switch . . . Occupational hazard of my occupation not being around (sorry Bubba)
If the family had any idea what I have been up to they would ban me from BT. Way to funny. I'm thinking that this thread has run itself out because I can't remember what the question was.
But then again do we really care? Mike
Oh come on now. Which would be worse? Hot rollers left on 24/7 or "Daaaaaaaaad! I NEEEEEEEEEEED More Quarters!"? Then, all that would be needed are agood set of noise-cancelling headphones (not per se plugged in--like that'd work, ever--but, just to have . . . )
Oh yeah, the topic was switches . . .
Hey, may that's it. Put the timer switches outside the bathroom . . . ("Time to go!" zing those switches to Off . . . )
Hmm, got to go find my vending machine buddy, coin-operated switch might put a smile on a face or two I know . . . Occupational hazard of my occupation not being around (sorry Bubba)
between the two of us I think we may be alful close to the perfect childs bathroom......coins timers and switches on the outside...Ah hang on a second i gotta rub my sides after reading that one.....tick.....tick.....ok Im back. You have got to have daughters? Thanks for the laugh. Mike
Might as well add cut off timers on the water flow or limiters on how much hot water gets thru the shower head....
A buddy has 5 females in his house and the irons and curlers and and and are always on...
He says his water usage is 38-40K gallons a month.. Showers are a never ending story and the washing macine never shuts off... His girls will take 3 showers a day...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming
WOW!!! What a Ride!
I know this getting of the the subject, but I will add it any ways. A friend that was an installed for the local phone company had a teenager line installed for her daughter. She had the daughter beliving that she had a special plan with the plone co. to have the phone turned off at 10PM & back on @ 7AM. The mother had a toggle switch wired next to her bed and would turn off the daughters phone in the eve & back on in the AM. Just like clock work!! OFF/ON If the mother forgot to turn it back on the daughter would holler @ her to call the phone company and get her phone on. This went all the way threw high school and the girl never knew any different.
My bud needs something like that....
6 cells and 3 house lines and they all seem to be tied up at once... Often...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming
WOW!!! What a Ride!
Add a digital display with the "remaining time" displayed. So maybe start them with 5 minutes of shower time and they can see the timer running out. If they want to shut the water off to pause the time, that's ok... but they see the timer counting down and know that its about to shut off.
Oh, and I liked the coin-operated electricity idea. Hmm, wonder if you could do it with cards instead. Each child gets a card. For each chore around the house, they get a certain amount of credit on the card. Credits can be used to extend electricity or shower time..jt8
Hmm, wonder if you could do it with cards instead.
<light bulb!>
Tokens. The vending guys usually have piles (xbox & nintendo killing the arcades). No cash value, but a definite "bonus" for good behaviour, etc. . . . (ooh, just think of the sleep-overs . . . )Occupational hazard of my occupation not being around (sorry Bubba)
thank god for low-flow showerheads. Not to mention hair caps for the drains. : )
not there....
and one has a yard more hair than the other...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming
WOW!!! What a Ride!
You have got to have daughters? Thanks for the laugh
Nope, but I got three (count'm, three) teenaged (step) sisters just after my 21st birthday. Lost "my" room in the house, too. Much mayhem with 17, 15, & 13 split into two rooms seperated by a split, semi-hollywood bath. Seven foot of countertop and two lavatories were not enough (even when separated from tub & w/c).
A distinct learning experience.Occupational hazard of my occupation not being around (sorry Bubba)
My sincere heart felt sympathies. is this why teenage boys will live in the basement with a shower head over the floor drain? Maybe I should have a talk with my boy before his older sister reigns havoc on the bathroom.
I'm guessing that a hollywood bath is the kind on "the brady bunch" between the boys and girls rooms.
Traditional "hollywood" bath is vanity (in a cubby of sorts); then either a tub & w/c in one room, or each in their "own" room; then another vanity to finish the run, with a bedroom on either end. The bedrooms are seperated (idealy) by back-to-back closets.
I like the idea of teenage male quarters being just blank with a central drain & shower. I'd get a commercial kitchen floor drain/strainer, were it down to me. Furniture is definitely unneeded, as piles of clothing, randomly sorted between clean & refugee-discards will usually suffice.
Oh, have I mentioned that an already jaded (and cynical) unc' marck has been nominated to baby(child) sit a couple too many times for a couple too many kids? Metal drums, cymbals, and other loud toys have "cured" almost all of that bad habit. (Some people just can't seem to discern the difference between "could be" a DI and "wants to be" . . . [that, and the 7-year-olds are smarter than the 17s] . . . )Occupational hazard of my occupation not being around (sorry Bubba)
"I placed a motion switch in our bathroom and I didn't turn the pages fast enough with the newspaper"
In that case, I would recommend the odor-activated switch.
"Those who are citizens of God's kingdom are best equipped to be citizens of the kingdom of man" -- St. Augustine
Methane detector....
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming
WOW!!! What a Ride!
pressure sensitive switch hooked up to the toliet seat.
Adam
Europe has those....
they can be a surprise...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming
WOW!!! What a Ride!
Would that be "motion"??
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming
WOW!!! What a Ride!
I thought that He ment moisture . Then did he install it under the mattress ? That would wake up a kid .
Way to funny--took me a second to hook up the moisture thing with the mattress. Good one!!!!!!!!!! Mike
Yes-- A case of the brain moving faster than the fingers. Or maybe it was dinner time--- Mike
How are ya doing there IMERC? Have I been let off the hook for having a virgin saw and pink cabinets? LOL
The virgin saw is cool but the pink cabs have gotta stay out in the gitradge...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming
WOW!!! What a Ride!
Peace Bro.
Oh yeah back to the thread------AAAAHHHH NO!
The garbage disposal runs off an air switch in my brothers house ---works like a charm. Cause I put it in and not him!
Mike
No
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming
WOW!!! What a Ride!
Just install a spousal switch. When you get in the tub with your book at the ready, just say, "hey baby, can you turn the light on for me?"
If you have trouble with this switch working the first time or two, you just need to leave puddles of water in the middle of the floor (well I HAD to get up and turn the light on and the water was running off me at the time). This works especially well if she tends to wear socks without shoes while at home.
If it's a fresh-water shower it's OK. Not advisable with a salt-water shower.
Why not? Every piece of plumbing pipe is plastic nowdays. Plastic drains, plastic supply lines. What could you possibly ground to?
If you have an answer for that question.... don't.
The water is a conductor, and it touches metal and earth somewhere. . .
The water is a conductor, and it touches metal and earth somewhere. . .
A sceptic are ya? Well just to prove my point...even though its not spring... I am going to take a shower. And.. while in the shower I will turn on the radio I have placed on the stand over the toilet and...then I will tune the radio to Jeff Foxworthy's countdown, which is playing right now on my local station.
If I don't get back to you...
...I might be a Redneck....
cute, a sceptic (which, I assume, is a skeptic not connected to a municipal sewer ;-)
Hope to hear back . . .
My apologies about the spel;ling I meant nothin by it.
As for the experiment, my tiny radio started pulling in stations from the other side of the Atlantic...before I blacked out.