locating radiant tubing in wood flooring
Help!, anybody have any ideas or tricks on locating radiant tubing under unfinished hardwood flooring? Customer tells me he wants floor outlets after the floor was installed!! The tubing is laid in aluminum backed panels, with 6″ on center slots.
We tried wetting the wood to see if it would dry quicker over the wood, that didn’t work, then we tried a handheld IR thermometer and that didnt work either. Any suggestions?
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You can find the center by measuring 3" from the little guiser. No, just kidding.
Maybe you could carefull cut only to the depth of the flooring with a Multi-Master type tool. Of course, if there is a tube there it would have to be patched, but then you'll know where the tubbing is and you can go from there. You're going to have to charge that customer extra for ignorance. =)
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Short of having accurate photos of the original install, I would think that an infrared camera would locate the tubing.
If you can locate the joists you should be able to fairl accurately locate the tubing layout.
I would have thought the IR thermometer would have worked. They do on concrete floors. But here's a crackpot idea..... how about a stud finder? Or rather, not-a-stud finder. Something that measures the density of the flooring. It'll be different over the tube than next to it.
Another idea, since I'm full of em today... Try a stethoscope. Maybe you, or your kid who probably still has good ears, can hear the water running through the tube.
Thinking about it, he should hire a really good flooring guy to remove a few boards so you can do your work, then piece the boards back in. The extra cost is the price of not planning ahead.
Another option, if the floor is accessable from underneath, is to carefully cut out a piece of subfloor to expose the backside (foil plate reflector thingy), which will tell you where the tubing is.~ Ted W ~
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this will do it...
http://www.boschtools.com/Products/MeasuringAndLayout/Pages/BoschProductCategory.aspx?catid=578
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A good IR camera would work.
Is this a regular nail-down floor? If it is, I'd guess your tubes go crossways to the flooring? Otherwise, how did you miss them when you nailed it? I'd remove a piece of flooring or two. Just set your skilsaw to cut exactly the thickness of the flooring, even a little less than that. Then rip a piece lengthwise down the center. Then monster it out of there with a chisel. You have to cut the back of the groove off and face nail the replacement.
Thanks for the ideas, the GC looked into the IR camera and decided its cheaper to remove a couple of boards so they can check it and mark the layout/spacing for future reference.
Dave
Cheaper as long as the layout doesn't change :)