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Looking for a secure door …

renosteinke | Posted in General Discussion on October 23, 2008 12:50pm

On a recent trip to Israel, I noticed some interesting doors, used on common apartments and homes ….

In general appearance and construction, they seemed comparable to out common steel residential doors … with one difference:

These doors had several bolts, operated by the key in the doorknob, that engaged the door around it’s perimeter … rather like a vault or safe door.

Local brand names were “Rav-Bariach” and “Pladelet” … which loosly translate as “Mr. Strongman” and “Armored Door.”

I like this idea – a lot. Is anyone aware of a siilar door, of whatever make, available in the USA?

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    coonass | Oct 23, 2008 01:23am | #1

    renosteinke,

    http://www.conservationtechnology.com/ has a retrofit system for doors. Not listed on the website but in the catalog. Never did one.

    KK

  2. dovetail97128 | Oct 23, 2008 01:37am | #2

    I know they are sold here in this country. I have attended several home shows in the past that had them.
    Give me a day or so to wander through some archived stuff and jog my memory.

    They can't get your Goat if you don't tell them where it is hidden.
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    BillHartmann | Oct 23, 2008 02:25am | #3

    Here is one source for hardware.

    http://www.sargentlock.com/products/product_overview.php?item_id=50

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    .
    A-holes. Hey every group has to have one. And I have been elected to be the one. I should make that my tagline.
  4. Howard_Burt | Oct 23, 2008 02:30am | #4

    Renosteinke,

    Were they similar to this type of arrangement?

    http://www.securitech.com/multi-point-lock.html

    1. renosteinke | Oct 23, 2008 03:09am | #5

      The doors I saw must have had some sort of multi-point mechanism like the ones made by Securitec, built inside the door.

      Some doors had the mechanism operated by a 'standard' mortise-style lock, as pictured in the Sargent site. Others had the lock cylinder located in the middle of the door, as if the Securitec four-point system were inside the door.

      Many doors, however, had more than four points .... three on each side, and two on the ends seems to have been the most common.

      Though ... as with so much in life, the devil is in the details. I actually removed one such door by removing the door together with it's poorly fastened frame. As with chains .... you're only as secure as your weakest link.

      Edited 10/22/2008 8:10 pm ET by renosteinke

      1. Howard_Burt | Oct 23, 2008 05:48am | #6

        Some of Securitecs products are made for concealed mounting.

        http://www.securitech.com/D15-integra-lock-mp-deadbolt-lock.html

        Check out the NYC Board of Education models....

        http://www.securitech.com/Web%20Catalog/4%20Multi-Point%20Locking/D17.pdf

        How would you like to go to a school that needs these on the doors to keep the riff-raff out?

        1. renosteinke | Oct 23, 2008 05:23pm | #9

          I missed spotting the "Integra" models ... those look like they'll do. Good catch!

      2. gfretwell | Oct 23, 2008 06:39am | #7

        If you had that anchored like our 150 MPH wind code door it would be very secure. Typically 1/4" TapCons on 8" centers with at least 1" embedment in the poured concrete door opening.
        If you were really serious you could have the masons pour the steel door jamb in the concrete door opening when they poured the dowelled cells.

        1. renosteinke | Oct 23, 2008 05:17pm | #8

          Oh, I agree, Greg. I said I had removed one ... I didn't say it was mine :D

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