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Loose firebrick in outdoor fireplace

jfsksa | Posted in General Discussion on July 15, 2022 03:36pm

First time post on this website, I hope to find some help.  

I have an uncovered, outdoor fireplace that was installed around 8-9 years ago.  The internal parts came in a kit with the pieces made out of a cinder block material. The exterior is sandstone rock, held in place with mortar, just like the rock on the side of my house.  

We burn live oak, hickory, pecan, etc. in it during cooler weather.

My problem is that the mortar holding the fire tiles on the inside of the fire box is failing.  One tile has fallen off, more are sitting in place, but are loose.

The top is pretty flat composed of mortar and rock, with a metal screen/top covering the chimney.  The top has cracks in the surface plus more cracks between the surface and the rock exterior.  I’m sure water is getting in and suspect that is what is causing the fire tiles to loosen.  I have noticed that after a hard rain, the ashes in the fireplace are wet.

I have two issues.  First, how big of a problem is this?  Is the water causing the interior pieces to deteriorate?  Am I looking at a problem which, if not addressed, will get worse and worse and eventually require the fireplace to be torn down and rebuilt?  Or is it no big deal and I can ignore it with no ill effects?

Second, if it’s a real problem how to fix it?  Can I caulk the cracks at the top?  Or do I need to fix with mortar?  Should I try to build up the slope the top so that rain runs off?  What products should I use?

I’ve called fireplace companies and they simply sell components and won’t give advice on installation.  I’ve called rock installers and they don’t know about this subject either.

Any advice along with other issues I need to consider would be greatly appreciated.

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    UncleMike42 | Jul 15, 2022 04:29pm | #1

    Any masonry fireplace needs maintenance. (at some point, the stone work on your house will as well.)

    A couple calls to chimney sweeps or places that advertise fireplace repair should get you in touch with competent help. They might want you to pay for a cleaning to come out and give it a professional review, but you can ask on the phone if they would come out, talk to you, and provide a free estimate.

    If you want to DIY without direct professional examination, google up "chimney crown" or "Cement Chimney cap" There are quite a few videos.

    A cap is also a good idea if you want to keep water out. You can also clean up the whole thing and give it a coat of acrylic sealant meant for such purpose. The sealant will help keep water from entering the structure and causing problems when it freezes.

    The fire brick can be re-adhered with some fireplace mortar.

    You can fix or not. At some point, parts falling off will make it less useful. This is not likely to burn down your house, like a fireplace inside the house could if not maintained.

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