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Makita LS711DWBEK 18 Volt Cordless Co…

| Posted in General Discussion on September 10, 2000 04:04am

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Has anyone bought this yet?]

near the stream,

aj

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  1. Shakey_Jake | Aug 29, 2000 09:53pm | #1

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    AJ'

    I looked at one and decided that I had finially reached that level of more sense than money.

    My name's Jake and I'm a tool junkie.

    1. Dennis_Loeffler | Aug 30, 2000 03:41am | #2

      *Here's a thought from a guy with some of that yellow crap.If you go thru two batteries per year, per person at $100 with a 10% profit margin, that means you have to do $1,000 worth of work to break even. Assuming you bill labor at $25 per hour, that is one week. Now, do the batteries save one week's time over an extension cord? As far as longevity, my corded Milwaukee is over twenty years old, with maybe two or three rebuilds to keep it good as new, and has had more abuse than any cordless could ever take. Yeah, it sits on the shelf, and the yellow crap is convenient, but is it profitable assuming a source of electricity? You don't sell the razor, you sell the blades. Dennis

      1. Bucksnort_Billy | Aug 30, 2000 03:53am | #3

        *How many times do you need a miter box when you haven't already got an extension cord out? That sucker's not little either.When I can stick it in a Bigg Lugg, I'm buyin', BB

        1. The_Tennis_Court_Builder_...on_t | Aug 30, 2000 05:18am | #4

          *I have many a time tried to dream up a handheld miter-slide for say a cordless saw...Stand right at your window frame and just cut it right in your hand...Pick up work or work that's all over the place...a cut here...a cut there...near the stream prototyping my first AJ's Handmiterslide,aj

          1. The_Tennis_Court_Builder_...on_t | Aug 30, 2000 05:24am | #5

            *Dennis...there is a major flaw in your math!!!...one week of profit used on one man...the man still was paid and the overhead still was paid... If I have $150,000 in tools, you're saying I lost 1,500 weeks of a man's work?...Well it just ain't so partner.near the stream,ajOne other tiny tidbit...my Makita batteries lasted for years...some for over ten...the worst was of late and lasted at least two.

          2. Phill_Giles | Aug 30, 2000 05:50am | #6

            *Well, if they'd make a neet carrying case like the cordless has for the 1013 or the 1212, then they'd really have something. It doesn't have the power/longevity to cut timber for decks and docks; so, after hauling a table and it's wings, what's the point for doing interior trim ?

          3. Gabe_Keway | Aug 30, 2000 05:57am | #7

            *seems like it would make for a great call back tool.....but I just don't get enough of them. :)gabe

          4. Denis_Loeffler | Aug 30, 2000 06:14pm | #8

            *Jack, to my way of thinking, if you have $150,000 worth of tools, the first $22,500 you make each year is a return on your investment in tools. To this you should add a %15 return on your working capital, etc. Why 15%? Have you noticed that tools have very little residual value at the end of their life span? All this ignores the tax considerations of expensing vs. depreciating. Cash flow is not profit which leads to wealth which to my way of thinking is the freedom to spend your time as you see fit - be it building things or sipping a brew by the stream - or river in my case.DennisAdding up overhead by the river.

          5. The_Tennis_Court_Builder_...on_t | Aug 30, 2000 09:38pm | #9

            *Denis...by the river...I concede your point...Now you better have a solution quick or I'm gonna have to drown my self in the damn stream.I guess tools need to be used 24/7 or they are underutilised...I agree...Or sell the tools and hire subs only...Denis...you and I need to drink a few and figure this out quick!...near the stream,aj

          6. Dennis_Loeffler | Aug 31, 2000 05:22am | #10

            *Jack, darned if I know the answer to that one. One guy just convinced me that I am justified in buying a 16Ga nailer when I already have a 15ga Senco. Heck, well all die in the end so might as well have some fun along the way.Have you noticed that many of they guys who are so concerned about money with leasing companies, sales pitches, goals, etc. are still working like crazy in their golden years?Dennis - heading to my place by the river tomorrow night. I'll have a beer waiting for you.

          7. Dennis_Loeffler | Aug 31, 2000 05:24am | #11

            *Hey Jack, buy one of the things and tell us all how it works. Heck, what is a few more dollars?Dennis

          8. The_Tennis_Court_Builder_...on_t | Sep 02, 2000 06:39pm | #12

            *Dennis....Still working out details on the next home I am to build...The owner at this point has decided to do the trim!...I may not need to buy it unless I can think up a reason quick!near the stream,aj

          9. John_Quinton | Sep 05, 2000 07:38am | #13

            *I actually own one of the Makita cordless miter saws and for the right job it is great. I originally bought it to put up simple door and window trim all over an apartment building. With this saw and my paslode cordless finish nailer it saved me huge time on a piece work job. It was easier to justify the purchase as I already owned the Makita 18volt drill and cordless saw. That job paid for it and now I use it whenever I need to run in and do a small job. Its fine for fencing and all sorts of small trim jobs. Makita has a 72 tooth finishing blade for it and it does a nice job. I like it but then again my paslode cordless framer never jams either. Best wishesJohn Quinton

          10. Dennis_Loeffler | Sep 10, 2000 04:02am | #14

            *Just saw one of these suckers at a hardware store. It comes in a case that is big enough to be a steamer trunk in an emergency. The case has handles on either end, just like a trunk. I think maybe they might throw in a small hand cart to move the whole thing around. It does look sort of cute sitting there on its blue box though.Dennis

  2. The_Tennis_Court_Builder_...on_t | Sep 10, 2000 04:04am | #15

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    Has anyone bought this yet?]

    near the stream,

    aj

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