Would you accept this? Granted the sun was at the right angle, but it’s new construction and they wern’t rushed.
“Put your creed in your deed.” Emerson
“When asked if you can do something, tell’em “Why certainly I can”, then get busy and find a way to do it.” T. Roosevelt
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Nope
not a chance...
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Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
Sloppy.
Not in this lifetime on planet Earth !!
Were they drinking in their conversion van over lunch?
I wouldn't accept it if I were the end-user, but I'm not a stone mason so I don't know what the tolerances are.
Sewage treatment plant??
Maybe
Bank?
NOT!
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Edited 3/4/2008 6:57 pm ET by EricPaulson
it's art!
probably usually costs alot more that way.
Jeff
Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
Thanks for all you unbiased opinions. This same material (Rockcast) is used on the main building, up to about 8-9 ft high, then brick to the top of the 2nd floor, with an eifs band at the top. The brickwork is very good, but for some reason they had problems with the rockcast (which is a very nice product). They blame part of it on the size of the rockcast, which is about 18x24 and weighs about 70 lbs each. They could only set two courses a day, and even then they used plastic shims to support each course.
Unfortunately, I think the remedy is to remove the rockcast and do it again. What a horrible thought. That's going to kill the schedule, never mind the financial strain on somebody."Put your creed in your deed." Emerson
"When asked if you can do something, tell'em "Why certainly I can", then get busy and find a way to do it." T. Roosevelt
I'm not sure what their problem was, but that's so bad I wouldn't trust it let alone want to look at it. That qualifies as a run on sentence for sure.
Man you sure seem to have trouble with masons down that way,is that work done by a different bunch-- precast included -- other than what you posted a few days ago ?and also ,was the rockcast the same co. that you had trouble with on the precast panels a few months ago, or is this a different supplier.
In all fairness if masons usally don't like a product theres a reason, sometimes it's something their just not used to doing or are unfamiler with, and sometimes its just substandard materials.
I would check"gauge" the consistancy of the dimensions of the units of precast for squareness, and Flatness of each unit. Before the "Time is Money" mantra all masonry units were gauged before laying in the wall, thus insuring material quality.
Also I would check whoever layed this" Shadow wall''s level because if they are doing this all the time they have a lying level ,or don't give a doodley what their work looks like, probley the latter. Hey another thing are ya'll going with the low bidder ?and if they have any exp. at all ,they should know they have to stiffen up the mortar a bit and to mix smaller batches ,to lay those heavy azzz things, so the units wouldn't walk around the wall after they are layed.
Just wondering...D.W.
Edited 3/4/2008 10:43 pm ET by dedubya
It's allthe same gc. The rockcast blocks are actually very good. Nice & square, very consistent finsh, we have no issues at all with the product. It comes from a factory in Ohio, I think. it's the installers that are screwing up."Put your creed in your deed." Emerson
"When asked if you can do something, tell'em "Why certainly I can", then get busy and find a way to do it." T. Roosevelt
Nice to see you're still alive. I sent you a couple e-mails.
Don K.
EJG Homes Renovations - New Construction - Rentals
Next time - sample panel!
Jeff
Another example of the lowest bid.
A fix could be to flat angle grind all 4 sides to smoothness, dig out the joints a bit, and sandblast the surface to get rid of the shineys.
But it would be so much easier to pull it down and redo it.
What's in your contract? What guidlines are you following as to what's acceptible? I'll bet a steak dinner it's within some organization's spec's as okay. Where was the super when the guys were installing the stuff?
When it's not in direct light maybe not one of 100 passing customers to the bank would even notice.
Best of luck
Beer was created so carpenters wouldn't rule the world.
Not without Gehery's signature on the detail that was built to . . .
Does the sign on the mason's van read "Miracle Masonary, if it's good masonry, it's a miracle"?
Specifications failed to include a line to the effect of plumb, true, square and workmanlike?