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Mating MDF with Drywall?

user-72007 | Posted in Construction Techniques on February 10, 2006 02:51am

I’m trying to provide adequate support in a drywall ceiling (steel stud bulkhead) for a glass door pivot hinge.  The glass is to be flush with the face of the bulkhead (right on the corner bead…), but I have to put some sort of structural support in with limited invasion.  My thought is to use MDF, cut it in to the drywall and re-tape/mud the works, repaint, etc.

Will the MDF constantly crack the taped & mudded joint?  Any other ideas?

John-Boy

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  1. MSA1 | Feb 10, 2006 06:04am | #1

    I'm thinking you're going to have a problem with the MDF expanding when you introduce the wet mud into the equation.

    How about a piece of 1x6 wood or maybe even an aluminum strip?

  2. jimblodgett | Feb 10, 2006 06:22am | #2

    I have used MDO (not MDF) for making a small boxbeam over a retrofitted opening, like widening a doorway or cutting in a closet in an existing wall.  I use 1/2" MDO in the same plane as drywall and flat tape it.  That's the nice thing about MDO, you get the structural properties of plywood with a paper face that paints out just like drywall.

    MDF might work, but it's a pain to work with and as you know most grades are sensitive to moisture.  Then there's the issue of the surface being a different consistancy than drywall...try some MDO, I bet you'll come out grinnin'.

    TIPI,TIPI,TIPI!

    1. manoman | Feb 10, 2006 07:03am | #3

      Is MDO an exterior grade plywood, like paper face form-ply? Medex is an exterior grade MDF that might take care of the moisture problem.
      I think that MDF, with it's edge well sealed and face primed, would be fine with the tape and mud joint. The different surface textures is a problem, but no more than the plaster and dywall paper difference. With a couple of heavy coats of primer and paint, it will work fine.

      1. jimblodgett | Feb 10, 2006 07:09am | #4

        "

         

        "Is MDO an exterior grade plywood, like paper face form-ply?"

        Yes. In fact, I'm pretty sure form-ply is sometimes called HDO (heavy density overlay).  The MDO we get out here in Western Washington has a pale green paper face.  People use it for outdoor signage.  Tapes and paints out just like drywall.  Very versitile product.TIPI,TIPI,TIPI!

        1. Mitremike | Feb 10, 2006 09:47am | #5

          Man Jim--saw the post header and thought--Hey this guy needs MDO and ya beat me to it---The only thing I can add is that I found if you primed the MDO first it seem to take better to being taped--the paper must be enough different (less poreies Im thinking ) that the mud set up different the first time I used MDO--Prepriming seemed to gve it more tooth--if that makes any senseHave used MDO to box out window in basement that are being taped to the wall rock and it holds up way better that DW--at least near windows.Hope things are well with you and Cathy--till next time.Mike" I reject your reality and substitute my own"
          Adam Savage---Mythbusters

        2. Mitremike | Feb 10, 2006 09:48am | #6

          One of these days I am going to find a use for that hunk of laminate---(smile)Mike" I reject your reality and substitute my own"
          Adam Savage---Mythbusters

          1. jimblodgett | Feb 11, 2006 12:38am | #8

            Well, if you do find a use for it let me know.  I have a bunch of them!

            Nice to see you around, Mike.  See you this summer, huh?

            p.s. been meaning to tell you I liked your new card. TIPI,TIPI,TIPI!

  3. Lateapex911 | Feb 10, 2006 12:35pm | #7

    Been there, done that. I have just primed the edges and surfaces with BIN 123, then taped away. So far so good. But it's just one example.

    Jake Gulick

    [email protected]

    CarriageHouse Design

    Black Rock, CT

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