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mice in the insulation

| Posted in General Discussion on May 7, 2000 06:32am

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I built a super-insulated, passive solar house. it is a concrete shell except for the south wall which is wood-framed and glazed. (house is in northern new jersey). house works great, but mice have gotten into the south wall, and maybe more, and are tunneling. they are probably getting in through the south corner(I) where huge boulders have been piled against the lower level of the house to make retaining walls. I have caught a few mice inside the house, but it’s not clear how they got in and whether it’s the same problem or a separate one. (the floor and roof are hollow recast plank, and I think the mice from the south wall are getting into the voids in the plank and travelling to the north wall and into the house that way. anyhow, I would appreciate suggestions.
milton newman

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  1. Tiger_ | Apr 28, 2000 03:22am | #1

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    You need a cat.

  2. Guest_ | Apr 28, 2000 04:18pm | #2

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    Tiger. A tiger is an excellent mouser. GeneL.

    1. Guest_ | Apr 28, 2000 04:25pm | #3

      *D-Con twice a year and lots of it. Outside and inside. Had the same problem. Don't now.

      1. Guest_ | Apr 28, 2000 06:42pm | #4

        *We had a big mouse problem at work after new building built ('greenfield site') - they said that the mice lived there first, is why they got into the new building so fast.I also had some mice at my old house and the exterminator told me:Mice need a hole the size of a dime to get in (most houses have somewhere, even new ones). Mice tend to move in in the winter, and unless you provide them with food will tend to move out in the summer (and they will remember your place each year and provide lots of offspring with good memories).He placed poison mouse food ('bait') in several places and the mice problem disappeared for me.He said he used bait that was non-toxic to predators further up the food chain and was slow acting. This allows an owl to eat the sick feller safely (good) and it makes mice sick before it kills them so they will not be found out in the open (middle of the kitchen floor, on your bed, etc. (also good).The dead mice only weigh about 1 oz. so they don't pose much of a concern, dead in your walls.I hope so!Anyway, call an exterminator. A cat will only be able to eat the ones she can find, and mice will spend most of their time in the walls out of reach.But get a cat anyway, because they are nice to have around.ps, when scouting for mouse activity, put some dusty material on the shelf, or floor, or whatever and look for mouse 'footprints' in it the next day (they make lots of marks when they are moving thru the area and they tend to use 'pathways' that they are familiar with. Talc or cement dust works, chocolate powder really works well!Almost all mouse traffic will be along walls and next to objects becaue they have poor eyesight and use their wiskers for navigation.Happy Hunting!

        1. Guest_ | Apr 28, 2000 06:52pm | #5

          *What kind of insulation?

  3. Tiger_ | Apr 28, 2000 09:35pm | #6

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    Grrrr...slurp,slurp. I know. But my little cousins seem to enjoy the chase more.

  4. Guest_ | Apr 28, 2000 10:12pm | #7

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    now Bill.... be nice...u already know what kinda insul. it is before u ask....hah, hah, hah..

    D-con werks great... a lot better than our tiger..

    he went to kitty school and got straight A's.. but he always thot mousin was wemins werk..

    left that up ta Vicky,, she'd line em up nose to tale, one sunday morning she had nine lined up..

    but the D-con is what really gets em'

    Vicky got most of hers outdoors, kinda perimeter defense...
    the D-con got the ones who made it past her...

    1. Guest_ | Apr 29, 2000 04:42am | #8

      *I don't think I'd make anu assumptions about a house with three sides reinforced concrete and flxicore decks. Could be aereated concrete for all I know.

      1. Guest_ | Apr 30, 2000 07:57am | #9

        *There is a fine mechanical mousetrap available through catalog companies (Whatever Works is one) called the 'Ketch-All' Believe me, it does. No bait required, they just go in, get flipped into a storage area and you can do whatever you want with them. It's a multiple-catch, meaning it keeps on catching after the first one.For a little added help a bit of peanut butter will bring them running.

        1. Guest_ | May 03, 2000 05:05am | #10

          *Jeff,Amazing! I remember seeing a trap as you describe on a TV programi yearsago. But I have never seen it for sale. I always figured that it didn't sell and "they" stopped making it.Rich Beckman

          1. Guest_ | May 03, 2000 05:15pm | #11

            *It's probably about $30 - not cheap. But it really works ... we get field mice (stone foundation) once in awhile and they work their way up into the attic and chew (brick, BX, Romex, framing), tap dance, and, well what mice do. You want to get rid of them before they make lots of babies.You put one of these on top of the stone foundation wall in the basement (where they run) so that they can't avoid the hole, one in the attic and one in the garage. Women seem to be able to handle the disposal better than with snap traps and if you check them often you can let them go "live" if that's your preference.Now if we could just get the moles in the garden ...

  5. fritz_wildebush | May 05, 2000 04:48am | #12

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    to catch lots of mice without re loading each time,get a pail,fill it 2" with water& abit of abaitfreeze if its winter, then get a beer can and put a piece of heavy wire through the can so that its like a rolling pin, smear some peanut butter on the can, put the wired can on top of the pail, so that the can can roll freely, but the wire stays put. put a board from floor up to the can rim. the mice go up the ramp for the pb, jump for the can, roll off, and drown in the bottom of the pail.

  6. milton_newman | May 07, 2000 06:32am | #13

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    I built a super-insulated, passive solar house. it is a concrete shell except for the south wall which is wood-framed and glazed. (house is in northern new jersey). house works great, but mice have gotten into the south wall, and maybe more, and are tunneling. they are probably getting in through the south corner(I) where huge boulders have been piled against the lower level of the house to make retaining walls. I have caught a few mice inside the house, but it's not clear how they got in and whether it's the same problem or a separate one. (the floor and roof are hollow recast plank, and I think the mice from the south wall are getting into the voids in the plank and travelling to the north wall and into the house that way. anyhow, I would appreciate suggestions.
    milton newman

  7. Guest_ | May 07, 2000 06:32am | #14

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    I have seen one of these multi-mice traps under the name "Tin Cat" made by one of the major mouse trap manufacturers, Victor I think. About twenty bucks at a local hardware store. The box had a picture of a cat looking something like the Tin Man in the Wizard of Oz, I almost bought the damn thing just for the box.

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