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Misc. kitchen rough-in questions

mwgaines | Posted in General Discussion on June 21, 2008 03:50am

1. Best height for fridge receptacle?

2. Best height for icemaker outlet box?

3. Best height for range hood connection?

4. Does the trash compactor require a dedicated circuit?

5. What is the standard depth for a base cabinet when the countertop needs to accomodate “slide under” barstools?

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    Ted W. | Jun 21, 2008 04:06am | #1

    36

    depends

    depends

    yep

    24 (counter is bigger)

    Taking a few minutes to provide a little more information would be real helpful. Is that a separate ice maker or built-in with the fridge? Will the range hood duct out the back or up through the cabinet, if there is one? Most barstool accomodating counters extend about 10" or 12" from the back of the cabinets, but the cabinets themselves are still the standard 24". Unless you're refering to height. In that case, elevate the cabinets 3-1/3 to 6" seems a pretty good range.

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    1. mwgaines | Jun 21, 2008 04:35am | #2

      Sorry. Standard size fridge with built-in icemaker. Range hood will vent vertically through the roof.New knowledge is priceless. 

      Used knowledge is even more valuable.

      1. MisterT | Jun 21, 2008 04:37am | #3

        RTFM.
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        "After the laws of Physics, everything else is opinion" -Neil deGrasse Tyson
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        If Pasta and Antipasta meet is it the end of the Universe???

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        Ted W. | Jun 21, 2008 04:49am | #5

        Standard fridge is 64 to 65" high, depending on how high the wheels are adjusted. I said 36" for the outlet because that's countertop height and easiest to reach when you pull the fridge out a little.

        Isn't the ice maker wired into the fridge? I've never seen one with it's own cord or need an extra outlet. If you're refering to the water supply, it should connect at the bottom of the fridge.

        Since the range hood vents through the ceiling it would depend on the layout of the hood. Should come with specs shoing where to locate the opening.--------------------------------------------------------

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        1. Piffin | Jun 21, 2008 04:55am | #7

          You use pretty short fridges! 74-75" more common to me. 

           

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            Ted W. | Jun 21, 2008 05:33am | #8

            I measured my fridge. :)--------------------------------------------------------

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            mmoogie | Jun 21, 2008 05:44am | #9

            Last two fridges I put in, both 36" wide side-by-sides in the 25cf range, were about 69 1/2" tall.Steve

          3. Piffin | Jun 21, 2008 06:04am | #10

            made me go look now.Mine is 68.5"Watch out now, one of the ladies here will be making the customary derogatory comment about boys always bragging about sizes 

             

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            Ted W. | Jun 21, 2008 06:09am | #12

            Mine's wider.

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            Ted W. | Jun 21, 2008 06:08am | #11

            That's too tall. How do they reach the bread in the wicker basket on top of it? Also, the whole upper part will be missing fridge magnets because the kid's can't reach it. They should have considered these matters when they designed it.

            Probably too wide too, just haven't thought of any reasons yet. But I'm sure there are some. I'm guessing the customer got a good price on it because of these design oversights. <g>--------------------------------------------------------

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    BillHartmann | Jun 21, 2008 04:46am | #4

    "4. Does the trash compactor require a dedicated circuit?"

    Code requires any fixed in place appliance that draws more than 50% of the circuit capacity be on dedicated circuit. otherwise it can share a circuit.

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    A-holes. Hey every group has to have one. And I have been elected to be the one. I should make that my tagline.
  3. Piffin | Jun 21, 2008 04:52am | #6

    Some of those are specifics.

    Like the barstools - we have three diffeerent sizes here.

    on things like the icemaker, the manufacturer will have a schematic available showing the recommended location, something like 2-7" AFF and 4-13" from left edge- or whatever.

    Refers go up at 4'- same as above counter/backsplash receps.

    Range hood - we leave the line loose in the wall, then pull it out and direct feed the fan when we install it. Don't know if that is kosher everywhere tho.

     

     

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  4. DougU | Jun 21, 2008 06:24am | #13

    most/almost all/all of those appliances have a spec for where the receptacle goes, take a look at that info provided by the manufacturer.

    Doug

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      ToolFreakBlue | Jun 21, 2008 06:30am | #14

      It's not the size of the fridge that matters...it's how it cools the meat.TFB (Bill)

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    JeffBuck | Jun 21, 2008 06:39am | #15

    pick your appliances ... and bar stools ... first.

    Jeff

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         Pittsburgh Pa

    1. Piffin | Jun 21, 2008 06:47am | #16

      LOL, seems so simple, doesn't it?Long time ago, I was building a kitchen for a guy. He told me what appliances and I asked for model numbers - he didn't know. So i asked for sizes. The trash compactor and ice maker he said were 24".Sounds large to me, but hey whaddew I no?! The whole house is big too.so he gets both at 19" then complains to me the holes are too big 

       

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        JeffBuck | Jun 21, 2008 06:58am | #17

        years ago my old electrician said ...

        "get the schematics, and if they're "fer'in", I'll loop the wires ..."

        "cause the fer'ners always lie!"

         

        he was only half joking.

        he'd done one too many high end kitchen with high end import appliances ...

        and he was right.

        unless you have the appliance sitting there ... U can't be 100% sure where the dedicated outlet has to go.

        Unless the appliance has been picked out and I have a cut sheet in front of me,

        I recommend a loop hidden behind which ever stud bay seems most logical.

         

        hopefully it's just a matter of cutting in a remodeling box.

        last time we ran water to a Sub Zero even their own cut sheets argued with each other! 2 different drawings ... same page ... showed 2 different locations.

        in the end ... neither mattered! Had room to bend the line and pull it thru.

        Jeff    Buck Construction

         Artistry In Carpentry

             Pittsburgh Pa

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        JeffBuck | Jun 21, 2008 07:00am | #18

        btw ... that 24" was easier to fill than opening up an 18" space!

         

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