Thought I’d up grade my mitre saw stand.
And yes it is a Ryobi. I was shocked too, but impressed – very solid!
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I have the Same saw stand. Not with the fancy set up like you have built, but the Ryobi is very nice. It's the same stand as the Rosseau, with out the awful saw attachment. I like that you can remove the saw easily without sliding it on or off. The saw attaches in the same was as the dewalt stand.
never thought I'd buy anything with name Ryobi on it. But my partner has the same stand and after using it and looking at some higher priced brands, I couldt see why not to buy it.
I made the upgrade because I have been used to sight built tables that have continuous support. which I like, but they are not very portable. The portable stands have dead zones where you can't make repeat cuts ( anywhere close to the saw.) also sometimes your stock flops around with lack of continuos support. one is able to slide the supports back and forth which works but kind of anoying. also one can get additional supports to add on. But I thought I'd add some extra support of my own.
I threw this one together with MDF I had on hand as a sort of a prototype. Down the road I'll see what I can improve and use some nice stock.
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Edited 7/2/2007 1:43 pm by alrightythen
nice set up.
I took a look at a buddies ryobi and up graded too ...
... bought the DeWalt so I wouldn't have to build one that worked!
Jeff
Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
aaaahhhh, you have to do the same upgrade to the Dewalt too if you want support near the saw.Live by the sword, die by the sword....choose your sword wisely.
Your set up looks nice. I spoiled myself. I have a saw helper set up. It's a little pricey up front, but I have made the $$ back because of the time I have saved on repetitive cuts etc. It sets up quick and it's sturdy like a tank! LoL. I had been using an old door that I modified into a saw station.All Things Wood!
Stephen Prunier Carpentry
Stephen,
I've been kicking around the idea of ordering a Sawhelper myself. I'm thinking 9'5 to the left and 5' to the right. Haven't made the call yet and there's no prices on the website.... whaddya think that would run me? ($)
And can it really be set up in 60 seconds? How many trips from the truck to the site to get all the pieces in?
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Edited 7/2/2007 9:32 pm ET by dieselpig
Tim Uhler swears by his, but I'm too cheap to buy one.
I'd guess around $500, but that is just a guess.It's not too late, it's never too late.
I've got issues again. I haven't bought much of anything all summer... just parts and pieces. But lately I've got the bug for a Sawhelper (and probably a new slider for it) and a Rousseau PortaMak (and I'd need a Makita TS for it). Could get ugly real soon.View Image
That a boy.It's not too late, it's never too late.
Pull the trigger now D!!
Do it now, go for it!!!!!
Vicariously purchasing some tools her Brian, get it done.[email protected]
I need like three jobs on the books to pull the trigger on something like that. Only got one right now and lots of quotes out. Gonna have to wait, I'm afraid. The crew I've got right now is just ridiculous.... we're burning through work. It's like trying to feed a monster.
(Did I let you down bro?) :)View Image
I'll just have to open my own wallet.
Gonna be tough though; the Subaru is due for brakes, tires, and a timing belt before we head to NC in two weeks.
And our five year anniversary is the 14th of this month.
Did I answer your question?
Somebody buy a tool damnit![email protected]
Eric
We have a house in TX that we're closing on on the 14th and in honor of your anniversary I'll go out and buy something really nice for myself. Your welcome to stop in anytime and use it though!
Doug
Edited 7/2/2007 10:53 pm ET by DougU
I just got the sawhelper and it is pretty sweet. Probably takes me three minutes tops to set it up. I went with the setup you are thinking about, and would like another for the shop, maybe two five foot wings. The stop setup for the rail is awesome. Think about reserving a little space in your ride/trailer for when you get it.
About the only thing I don't like about it is that you will have to sometimes flip heavily hooked stock 180 degrees to make cuts because the rails are so straight to the saw. Picture cutting a 2x12 with a miter saw with a nasty crown pointed at you, kickback city! But it isn't really a bad thing, it just requires a little extra mental juggling.
Bosch is coming out with a new table saw, the 4100, that looks pretty sweet. Gravity stand, digital fence (if you want it,) and a somewhat usable looking blade guard that has a quick disconnect. I am saving my pennies.
Dustin
So how many trips from the truck to your setup area (including the saw) are needed. And what did you pay for the set-up... if you don't mind me asking.
I've seen that new Bosch tablesaw on the web.... I dunno... just doesn't do much for me that my current Rigid setup wouldn't do. I really like the looks of that PortaMak set-up and how little space it'll take up in the trailer.View Image
The saw will be one trip, and if you get clever with some strapping, the legs, wings, and stand would be your second trip. If you stored it all as separate pieces, it could take three trips.
Get the longest wings they make, take time to do the tape inserts both right and left, and most all of the cutting is done leaving your tape in your belt.
Dieselpig
On a wim I bought the saw helper in 2006. I didn't set it up until 2007, for an exterior trim and siding job. I was surprised on how much easier it was to make up 50 Azek window surrounds and crown heads with this setup.
I bought 2-9'6 sides and a 5'0 side. I use my Dewalt stand to hold up the miter box instead of the original stand, then attach the sides to the box.
I normally take three trips, because if I'm using the dewalt 718, I need a rest after carrying that beast. I think I paid about $600, for this setup.
I'm doing more remodeling this year than framing, so I'm giving it a workout. For me it was a good investment.
Greg In Connecticut
I've got the Saw Helper. I guess I've got 8' to the left and 5' to the right. It is pricey but it's a smooth operator. 60 seconds is probably pushing it a little bit but certainly within two minutes. 9.5' to the left sounds like a long piece of aluminum to me but if that's what you need for your work, it will work and be plenty sturdy.
The only thing that I've heard some people gripe about is that you've got to carry four pieces (left wing, right wing, saw stand, and support board) and the saw to get it from the van/truck to the cutting site; one less piece if the saw is already mounted to the support board. Vs. carrying one collapsible stand such as the dewalt.
They never complain once they start using it though.
if you want support near the saw.
most of the time ... I just hold the short stuff down with my free hand.
for repeat cuts ... one nice thing about the DeWalt is how easy it is to slide over to one side or the other ... next to the supports.
I only use the "lock knobs" for the supports when carrying the thing ... otherwise ... all day ... they're loose and I'm sliding the supports to where ever I need them.
someday I'll get the sawhelper ... till then ... I'm thrilled with the DeWalt.
knew I would be as I worked with and used a buddy's for years.
Jeff Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
I've had the same stand for a year and a half and am still impressed with it. A few well placed stickers from my favorite ski area helps take the sting off owning something ryobi.
yeah....I had to wear sunglasses and wear my hat down low when I walked out of the store with a big Ryobi box. especially since I'm always telling people not to buy Ryobi! View Image View Image
I just did something very similar. Mine is just two boxes with drawers. I got two sets of the DeWalt mounting brackets and built the drawer boxes to match the saw table height. I use a strip of scrap and a clamp to make a stop that can work in those "dead spaces"
For long stock, I can use the extending support arms, or roller stands. So far, I like it fine.
love the drawers!
yeah, without a fence to clamp to, you are stuck with the dead zones.
I realy like what you have done. I kinda threw mine together, but I wanted someplace to put a pad and pencils. dunno why, but I seem to have a problem with the pencil not getting to my pouch when I'm working at the stand, so they seem to end up on the ground all the time.
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Edited 7/2/2007 7:57 pm by alrightythen
The drawers were sort of an afterthought. I was fooling around with some pieces of MDF mocking up the boxes when I realized that I would have two perfect places for drawers - and drawers are always a good thing. - lol
I'll probably make some dividers for one of them so the pencils don't wind up in the back all the time.
Not surprising both setups are using an LS1031. We agree on the best slide saw.
You know, the crew I used to work with had two of the LS 1013's
when I went out on my own and needed to get my own slider, I looked to buy something different. But after looking at them all, I ended up choosing....you guessed it. View Image View Image
You upgraded TO a Ryobi?
I'm afraid to ask what you upgraded FROM.
J. D. Reynolds
Home Improvements
from this.......
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the upgrade was not in the stand but in the shelf add on. Although I guess buying the stand was an up grade as well.
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Edited 7/2/2007 11:58 pm by alrightythen
Hey, I was just bustin' em man.
I've got the Ridgid.
Truth be told, I still prefer a pair of saw horses with a benchtop laid across.
Simple set up and the bench is good for a myriad of uses throughout the project.
Whatever makes the job easier is what its all about.
I don't care if its made by Ryobi, Craftsman or B&D.
Only reason I broke down and bought a stand was because HD had em for $99.
Were it a Ryobi, I'd likely have bought it as well.
J. D. ReynoldsHome Improvements
I subed for a kitchen place and worked occasionally with their hired guy.
he carried around a board that pretty much replaced the table saw on most jobs ...
sometimes replaced the chop saw too.
Just an old 2x10 ... 9ft long ... with 2x6's screwed from the bottom ... laid across.
dead center was the biggest open spot ... sized to hold his chop saw in place.
but usually ... it was laid across the horses ... and everything was ripped with the circular saw.
great for ripping kitchen filler strips and such.
just a big sacrificial cutting table.
it had a million cut marks ... and looked to be older than dirt.
seeing as how he was younger than me ... I had to ask.
How'd he get a piece of lumber that looked to be as old as he was!
he said it was strapped on the top of the company van when he started working there ... lead carp he worked with used it and he liked the idea.
said he told that guy he really liked his simple idea ...
guy said wasn't his ... but was strapped on top of the old company van when he started!
what's the math here ... say that board was in service for 10 yrs ...
average of 15 kitchens a year ...
average of $50,000 per kitchen ...
that's alot of big money trim cut over that scrap lumber!
Jeff Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
I actually looked at the Ridgid as well. $30 more..and looked like the Ryobi folded up smaller. But the Ridgid looked pretty nice.
If your framing a house...it is kinda nice to build the bench in the 15 minutes it takes and then just leave it on site the whole time. View Image View Image
If your framing a house...it is kinda nice to build the bench in the 15 minutes it takes and then just leave it on site the whole time.
Yup. My last job as an employee was with a contractor who did alot of framing. I was alone on my first day with the company. One of their lead men was getting married, and I was left to accept and distribute a lumber delivery for the new project we were starting. Lumber showed earlier than expected, and I was all gung-ho about impressing the new boss. Banged together a couple pairs of saw horses, and loaded them up with the lumber as it would be used for the project.
Absolutely blew the boss (and crew) away when they showed up the next day. Said he never took the time to build horses.
Those two pair followed us around for a good five years afterwards.
Then there was the temporary door. Boss wanted to tack a sheet of plywood over an opening we had created in preperation for an addition. I convinced him that the opening was going to be used by alot of folks for a good deal of time. I smacked together a "door" out of 2Xs and plywood...hinged it with strap hinges and threw on a padlock.
After several weeks, we were ready to address the opening. Boss told the laborers to save the hinges and toss the "door" into the dumpster. I interceded and snatched the door for a benchtop.
They were still using it as such after about nine years when I left the company.
I built one for myself when I went out on my own, out of PT 2 X 4s and PT plywood using galvy deck screws. It sits outside year round unaffected by the elements.
It aint purty....but it serves its purpose.
J. D. ReynoldsHome Improvements
your experineces remind me of my time with the crew I used to work for.
we always built saw horses each new framing site we went to...or more accuratly "old timer" Jake built em. straight cut legs kicked out on angles. they were always kinda wobbly and good for about one frame job.
then one day on a new site, I was given the task of making the saw horses. I decided to make the bench first so I could make all my cuts using the chop saw real fast. set the nail stop at 36" make straight cuts for top assemply, turn saw to compound angle cut and cut all the legs off the same stop.
I figured out the bevel that the legs tuck into the 2x4 asembly which happens to be 15 degrees. with angle of 10 degree and the 15 degree bevel. the legs fit real snugly. I also discovered that a lot of broken down horses fall apart because of the way they are nailed together. if you take care to stagger and angle your nails different ways, you won't get so much splitting.
I was given the task of building horses from then on in. which wasn't too often anymore as the ones i built stayed together. we did however often leave our horses behind for other tardes to use. one site I recall going back a year later for something and seeing them covered in paint. View Image View Image
Does anyone have a pic of the Saw Helper? Am trying to figure out if it is the one I bought.
John
http://www.sawhelper.com/Ultrafence.html#View Image
Thanks.
I bought one of those about 10 or 12 years ago. It was between $400 and $500 then. I got one long side and a short side. Still use it. Easy set up and take down.
Got it from an ad in FHB. Called them for a price and was talked into buying it.
John