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Most annoying tool

| Posted in Tools for Home Building on November 28, 2002 03:58am

Maybe this should go in the Woodshed, but it is tool related…

What tool annoys you the most?

My vote goes for staple guns. I have never seen one that doesn’t jamb when you have the vapor barrier halfway up, or some other inopportune moment. I see new easy fire designs on the tube that promise all sorts of pleasure of use (I won’t go there). All of them still have the same old Arrow style loading mechanism that works 3 out of 5 times and wastes at least the last 1/4 of the stick.

There must be a pet peeve tool for all of you. So what’s it going to be?

 

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  1. alias | Nov 28, 2002 04:42am | #1

    hey tommy dont give us any lip.................. i'm sure i'll be banished to siberia for that one ........bear



    Edited 11/27/2002 8:44:19 PM ET by the bear

  2. ReinTaul | Nov 28, 2002 04:47am | #2

    Are you criticizing the hammer or the nail?

    1. Sancho | Nov 28, 2002 08:22pm | #8

      Did you read the instruction manual? Are you sure you know how to operate it?At Darkworks cut to size made to burn......Putty isnt a option

      1. Saw | Dec 01, 2002 06:12am | #22

        DeWalt power saws! nuf ced

  3. 4Lorn1 | Nov 28, 2002 08:37am | #3

    Careful troubleshooting usually isolates the problem to the head stock assembly. Could be mine. Might be hers.

  4. jimblodgett | Nov 28, 2002 06:38pm | #4

    I guess I'd have to say that DeWalt biscuit joiner - never could get very accurate joints with it and finally sold it instead of let it sit around collecting dust.

    The PC Profile Sander would be a close second.  What an non ergonomically designed POS that thing is.  Gives me carpal tunnel inflamation just thinking about it.  I still use it for sanding homemade mouldings and such, but that has to be about the least user friendly tool I own...except for my old Yankee screwdriver - man, I poked several holes in door jambs and my figers trying to get the hang of that thing - sure glad we have cordless drills now.

    I haven't had much trouble with the tool Tommy mentioned, but I think I'm the exception to that rule.  Got a heck of a good chuckle reading that though, thanks you guys (I gotta go vacumn, do the dishes and laundry before she gets up).

    Brinkmann for president in '04
    1. CAGIV | Nov 29, 2002 05:44am | #18

      PC profile sander is defiantly a piece or engineering genius, Its a great Idea in concept but the vibration sucks. I stopped using mine but the pads that came with it work great for hand sanding profiles.

      The most annoying tool I own is the little pancake compressor, It sees use every day, but the constant drone of it kicking on is really annoying, especially when framing, I figured it out, every 10-12 nails and it turns on.  I got to get one of those 30 gallon upright deals on wheels.

      1. schmitz6 | Dec 02, 2002 09:45pm | #25

        Back when I was in the trade full time the biggest piece of crap was a ryobi router with a plastic shaft lock. I know, who the h... would by something wih a plastic shaft lock ?... I assumed the plastic was just a cover...after the scond freebie replacement from the lumberyard I hit it with an 8 lb. sledge and felt much better.

        Now let's discuss extension cords.

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        ProDek | Dec 02, 2002 11:34pm | #26

        The only tool that really bothers me is the tool I love the most........My hammer.

        I hate it when it hits my thumb.....

        I hate it when the claw slips off the nail I'm pulling and the handle hits me in the lip....

        I hate it when it's not in the belt loop where it belongs.....

        I hate it when it bends nails, misses the nail set, falls from a second story deck, or misses the nail altogether and makes a big waffle track in the deck.

        But.............I really like to hold it in my hand...........Because it is then, when I feel most like a real carpenter.Bob

        "Rather be a hammer than a nail"

        1. ReinTaul | Dec 03, 2002 01:50am | #27

          Nice.

          I hate it when I'm way up high and its way down there, or vice versa.

        2. kennedy136 | Dec 03, 2002 07:12am | #29

          Pro,

                  It's all the hammer's fault!

                                                Mark

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            ProDek | Dec 03, 2002 09:38am | #30

            That's what I've been trying to tell you guys.........

            Hammers get tired too......

            Bob

            "Rather be a hammer than a nail"

      3. don26299 | Jan 16, 2003 03:30am | #104

        A tool that has annoyed me for years is the hole saw.  In spite of how you are holding your drill (mouth, whatever) the things jerk you & wind the cord on your drill, if not pull it off. 

        1. UncleDunc | Jan 16, 2003 04:08am | #105

          I've never had much trouble with hole saws. But your message does bring up one of the tools that most annoys me, drills with cords. I bought a DeWalt cordless 6 or 7 years ago and haven't touched my old Craftsman since then, except to kick it out of the way. It's still lying pretty much where I left it, covered with dust.

          1. splinter26 | Jan 18, 2003 09:44pm | #106

            Not a tool but still kind of annoying. Painted aluminum trim nails. You don't see 99% of it when driven in and you knock most the paint off the head when driving it in. Dumb idea! Just like panel nails. Found a stainless steel nail for trim with a textured head that holds the paint. Once saw a hard plastic cover for hammer faces that helped keep from knocking the paint off of nails.

            Edited 1/18/2003 1:46:04 PM ET by splinter

          2. swdd | Jan 19, 2003 03:39am | #107

            My index finger, it's up my nose all the time.

            Sorry, I had to.

            Scott

          3. andybuildz | Jan 19, 2003 08:08pm | #108

            Corded belt sanders. My PC has more tape on it then the original roll.

            a"Attachment is the strongest block to realization"http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM

          4. Steve1 | Mar 05, 2003 07:25pm | #109

            the delta sidekick table saw has my vote as the most annoying tool i own

            had it two years, switch lasted a week, fence was garbage, blade raising mech. doesnt work

            got the sidekick stand for it, thats a marvel of engineering

            other pet peeves? how about $300 tools with no case?

  5. rez | Nov 28, 2002 07:35pm | #5

    Pet Peeve huh. Have to be the PC Bammer. I got when it first came out with all the hype. Shouldn't complain too much about it since it served it's purpose in a bind on a t&g job. Kinda hard way to go with it tho'. A lot of misfires and design flaw in that you #### the gun during the pressdown to shoot the nail and it takes some getting use to in order to lessen the number of misfires. Guess that's what you get for buying a first generation tool. It looks like they gave up on the idea since it's farted along for so many years now and nothing's changed with no news.

     I'd still like to know about the embossed disclaimer on the plastic noseplunger barrel. It says 'CAUTION-HOT' and can't for the life of me figure out if the original function of the gun was intended for assembly line type of work where you'd shoot 10 nails in 15 seconds or something like that in order to heat the barrel up. After playing around with it for a long time I was happy just to get the thing to shoot 3 or 4 in a row.

    I went and got one of those little stanley electric staple/ brad shooters and they work ok and pretty consistent if you don't mind the cord trailing you. Did use a stapler that beLowes put out for customers to use stapling red flags on long lumber. Was amazed at how easy it was to staple with. The cashier said they sell them there. Almost went and bought one. Gotta stop that before I have to start a local chapter of 'toolaholic anonymous'.

     Let the thunder crack and the waves roar.

     We're going on.

    1. alias | Nov 28, 2002 08:03pm | #6

      the bammer absolutly the EDSEL of all tools, I have got one and i loathe that son of a bitch...... had a double dose of stupid pills that day...wwhhhheeewww some times you eat the bear and sometimes the bear eats you...figuretively speaking of course

      1. stossel1 | Nov 28, 2002 08:10pm | #7

        My vote goes for the Bosch 24 volt cordless drill.I finally threw it off the deck I was building. The clients son has it now.

        1. alias | Nov 28, 2002 08:23pm | #9

          stossel- that thing was a drill with a cantalope attached the bottom of it what the hell..........what's next a day pack to carry with you?? the battery thing is way outta control. that my friend was a reasonably expensive toss, my hats off to you...... the price of a vent, expensive therapy.......bear

          1. stossel1 | Nov 28, 2002 08:39pm | #14

            Kind of felt like hitting a monster drive

        2. Sancho | Nov 28, 2002 08:24pm | #10

          The PC 3" planer. The way the handle is designed it digs into my hand between the index and thumb. It really bites. It would be a nice tool if they would just redesign the handle. GGGGRRRRR At Darkworks cut to size made to burn......Putty isnt a option

          1. rez | Nov 28, 2002 08:27pm | #11

            Is it time to custom fit it? Let the thunder crack and the waves roar.

             We're going on.

          2. Sancho | Nov 29, 2002 07:46am | #19

            Yep with a sand sand here and a grind grind there, and a couple of tra la las, Thats how Ill be planning the day away in the merry ol land of oz...(guess whats on tv tonight)At Darkworks cut to size made to burn......Putty isnt a option

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      Dam_inspector | Jan 22, 2009 01:28am | #111

      Just wonderin, did you ever get over that bammer issue?

      1. rez | Jan 22, 2009 08:05am | #118

        heh heh Now that's funny right there!

        It's sitting around somewhere but where I dunno.

        Served it's purpose on the one original job and got me out of a jam so I guess I'm content seeing enough time has gone buy where I can see a bit more circumspectly and treat it as a cheap lesson.

        Kept me from buying a RotoZip when they first got popular then saw everyone's parts go flying off the things.

        Still makes me wonder what the 'Caution Hot' deal on the nose was all about tho'. ;o)

         

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        Edited 1/22/2009 12:06 am ET by rez

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        IMERC | Jan 22, 2009 08:16am | #119

        nobuddie ever gets over a Bammer issue..... 

        Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->

        WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!

         

        "Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints"

  6. noone51 | Nov 28, 2002 08:29pm | #12

    Senco Framepro - I hope I just got a bad one since I've never seen a Senco gun act like this one. It misfired and jammed constantly. I tried several different manufacturers nails including Sencos and had the same problems. I finally took it back and traded up to a Hitachi 83A. Thankfully, the Hitachi will fire just about anybodys nails so I've been able to use all of the ones that I bought for the Senco. That Hitachi has seen a lot of use lately and I have to say, so far its been the most reliable Frammer that I've ever owned. It has never jammed and I don't recall any misfires.

    1. stossel1 | Nov 28, 2002 08:42pm | #15

      I had a Senco Framepro also, what a piece of junk! Sold it and bought a Paslode problem solved.

      1. dgarrison409 | Nov 29, 2002 02:31pm | #20

        Bosch Jig Saw - used to be a great tool now we are constantly replacing the palstic head that tightens the blade. We also used to replace the cast aluminum bases all the time until I found I can order the old style steel bases. It really annoys me because it cuts so well.

        Senco 12V 18ga pin nailer - never really worked right. Despite claims it will not shoot a 2" nail into 3/4 plywood onto a 2x4.

        1. FastEddie1 | Nov 29, 2002 05:37pm | #21

          I have the Bosch saw and I'm not thrilled about it.  Tell me about your problems...does the plastic heads snap off or what?  Mine is loose and a pain to use, but still works.  The baseplate...I frequently have to carefully tap mine back into a flat configuration...seems that it deforms easily.  What's the part number for the steel bases, or do you get them off the website?

          1. dgarrison409 | Dec 02, 2002 01:52pm | #23

            Mostly the plastic heads break after 3-5 months and no longer tighten the blade. I've also had the top piece break off. I don't think it would be hard to repair yourself if it does break. 

            I will check on the part number for the metal base plate. I found it by ordering it as a replacement for the older saw that came with the steel base and a screwdiver to tighten the blade.  

  7. sdr25 | Nov 28, 2002 08:30pm | #13

    Here's one of mine for the list.

    Craftsman wet/dry vac. It was ear piercing loud, would tend to tip if you tried to pull it along with the hose and the plastic attachments either broke or wouldn't stay on. Luckily it recently puked, now I can get a Fein.

    Scott R.
  8. jc21 | Nov 28, 2002 10:26pm | #16

    Got rid of it years and years ago but still annoys the H*ll out of me...... Ryobi radial arm saw. Thought it would be a good jobsite saw in combination with my Makita tablesaw. The Ryobi was downright scary to use. Arm and post would flex and the blade would catch the table, tearing the table right off. Two recalls ........ 

    1. FrankB89 | Nov 29, 2002 12:15am | #17

      ANY tool from Sears.  I used to buy a lot of tools there, especially in my millwright days, but I finally broke the habit after disappointment after disappointment.

      Someone recently made reference to how, at least, their hand tools are first class...bullhonkey!  Anyone who's ever owned the OLDER craftsman wrenches or Plumb or Proto or Macs can appreciate the thin profile of box end wrenches, the better steel, etc.  The newer Craftsman wrenches are like clubs.

      I have one of their wet/dry vacs.  It has some nice features, like being able to remove the motor head and use it for a blower.  But otherwise, it's a clunky awkward SOB that was made to sell, not to use. I do believe the hose was made from corregated plastic drainpipe, yet I doubt drainpipe would kink as easily.

      I've got a Craftsman 14" bandsaw, modeled after the old Turner or Rockwell.  The tensioner and the guides (critical to a bandsaw) are absolute junk.

      I await the day that Sears deservedly goes the way of Montgomery Ward (another enterprise that went from reliable to peddling crap).

      There!  Now I feel much better! 

      1. PeteBradley | Dec 02, 2002 08:36pm | #24

        Sears' Craftsman return policy seems guaranteed to drive them to make crap.  I once watched a guy dump a shopping bag full of rusty, maimed craftsman hand tools on the counter (looked like junk from a yard sale or worse) and proceed to pick out all new replacements for free.  I'd like to think that most people have better ethics than this, but there are enough people doing the junk trade-in to insure that Sears tools are going to get worse and/or have "insurance" built into the price.

        Sears even used to have the return guarantee on things like Torx bits (which are normally destroyed quickly in their standard use -- taking apart old AMC/Jeep products).  Now they got "smart" and they sell  junky ones instead that are virtually useless. 

        Pete

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    JDRHI | Dec 03, 2002 06:18am | #28

    I`m going with the Makita planer....that thing bites more than a rabid Pitbull...although the Craftsman shopvac is up there!

    J. D. Reynolds

    Home Improvements

    "DO IT RIGHT, DO IT ONCE"

  10. booch | Dec 03, 2002 05:51pm | #31

    Any vibrating sander.

    I've got a collection of 1/4, 1/3 and 1/2 sheet sanders. POS all of them. After I got a mickeymouse vibrating orbital 5-1/2 inch ryobi I couldn't believe the difference. Unfortunately it still has that numbing effect on the hands after hours of use, but there are now results and hardly any clogging of the paper.

    Good news is the neighbors (lawyers, and marketing types) frequently ask for a sander to deglaze paint or fix a booboo in their house. I'm the great guy for lending them the old ones. Frankly if it never came back I'd be nonplused.

  11. BryanFleury | Dec 03, 2002 11:19pm | #32

    the tool that annoys me the most right now is my helper.



    Edited 12/3/2002 6:05:35 PM ET by BRYANFLEURY

    1. fdampier5 | Dec 03, 2002 11:42pm | #33

      Caulking guns! 

        those goey leaky pieces of junk aren't worth cleaning.  somebody recently put the tip cutter and poker on the gun only now you can't cut the tip off short enough to really gob goo on. The price is low enough that it doesn't pay to clean them and that offends my frugel nature.

           A little leak in the cartridge and the ram gets coated with whatever which when it dries makes the gun not workable. the little poker that you shove into the end of the cartridge always has goo on it right where you need to grab ahold of it.  In the cold there isn't enough leverage in the world to force the goo out at an acceptable rate so you wait while things are warmed up.....

            I tried a pneumatic and I thought that was an answer, however the only ones I could find were made in China and last just about as long as their cheaper cousins.....

      1. RickLouquet | Dec 04, 2002 12:55am | #34

        I bought a Campbell Hausfeld air compressor on September 10, 02.  I'm already thinking of selling it.  The axle bent within two weeks.  The copper air tube is tight between the air pump and the belt cage, will wear out soon, I'm sure.  The most annoying thing is the tiny drain valves.  They are way too small, they are threaded sloppy and easy to cross thread, and this morning, they were frozen open.

        Rick

        1. Justus | Dec 04, 2002 10:21am | #35

          I've been lucky with my tool purchases, I really don't have any that I can't stand, but since I want to play I'll serve up my Ryobi Router. It was the first power tool I ever bought. There really is nothing wrong with it, except for the fact that it won't die. I have a nice porter cable set up at my shop, and I keep this one in my tool box for site work. I'd like to get something with a little more umph and a dust collector, but my scottish nature won't let me while I still have a perfectly good tool. Justus Koshiol

          Running Pug Construction

      2. JohnSprung | Dec 05, 2002 03:01am | #40

        > Caulking guns! 

        I found a good one at HD of all places.  The brand name was Williamson or Wilkinson or something like that.  Made in England, about $15.  As for leaking around the plunger, that's the fault of the individual tube of caulk or whatever.

        -- J.S.

        1. FrankB89 | Dec 05, 2002 03:28am | #41

          That English brand is the only kind I've used for several years now.  As far as getting gunked up, they can actually be disassembled and cleaned.  Same way with their 28 oz. tube gun. 

          What I find really irritating is, when the elves are stocking shelves in the building supply and, while slitting the cases of caulk open, they create nearly invisible slits in one row of tubes.  So there you are, hunkered down in a bathtub, running a fine bead of caulk and suddenly you feel a soft gooey mass begin crawling across your wrist! The urge to go kill  or maim is almost overwhelming!Jules Quaver for President   2004

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          CloudHidden | Dec 05, 2002 03:29am | #42

          When I went from $3 guns to $11 guns, all of my problems with them were solved.

        3. fdampier5 | Dec 05, 2002 06:09am | #43

          perhaps its not the gun's fault as much as the system.  Yes the tubes can be the problem & yes the gun can be the problem.    Whatever,..... if you are hanging 38 feet in the air and some adhesive oozes all over your hand, the last thing you can do is stop and clean up the mess.  At that time I scrap off what I can jam another tube in place and hope I get it spread before it startes to harden.   Afterwards cleaning the gun can't take place because you are as* holes and elbows getting the panel in place and secured before some 45 mph gust knocks it off and you have to start all over again....

             Same thing with the glue that goes on floor joists.  If there is a problem in the tube, you simply can't take the time to clean everything up properly  if you want to get the  whole floor done before it gets hard...

          1. CAGIV | Dec 05, 2002 06:15am | #46

            Frenchy, Have you  ever seen the little jig you can make to slip around the front of the caulk gun to make it "ride" on the joists I made one it works great 

          2. fdampier5 | Dec 05, 2002 06:19am | #48

            No, hitting the joist seems to be the least of my problems.  Sounds like a neat idea...

          3. CAGIV | Dec 05, 2002 06:29am | #49

            Its not hard to keep in the joist with out it but this little jig thingy puts the bead right down the center and you can move as fast as you can get the glue out, basically get some scrap 1/2 ply make one piece for the back and put a hole big enough to fit the tip of the clue out, make the back about 2 inch square, then make two little pieces for the sides about 2x2 inch and attach them to the back, get some good industrial rubber bands and strap it onto the front of the gun when you have to put glue down on joists, we always glue and screw drywall to ceilings and the jig works great over your head.

          4. fdampier5 | Dec 05, 2002 06:34am | #50

            since my ceilings are SIPS I don't have the problem that others do, I always hit the "stud"  no matter where I stick the screw.   However, I'll steal your idea for gluein' the joists.

          5. CAGIV | Dec 05, 2002 06:40am | #51

            Wish I could claim I came up with it, but I saw it in either FHB or some other mag 6 months or so, ago.

  12. heck22 | Dec 04, 2002 04:19pm | #36

    Wagner Power Painter.

    'Nuff said.

    what the heck
    was I thinking?

    1. booch | Dec 04, 2002 09:55pm | #37

      Wagner is second only by the Krebs I bought with the backpack paint tank. Works real well for about 45 minutes then the adjustment knob on the Half A transformer/electromagnet heats it up so that the plastic adjustment knob does a meltdown. 1-1/4" with an acme thread! How much more $ could it have been to make a pot metal knob that would last as long as the rest of the machine?

      I figured it was a cost of the machine/convienience constantly replacing the knob except they are no longer in business so... I got a great pile of stuff that I use threaded dowels and popsicle sticks to operate. If it wern't for cement blocks that need painting I'd recycle it under my tires.

      1. allenschell2 | Dec 05, 2002 12:35am | #38

        Most annoying tool?  Why that would be the old belt sander; no matter how carefull you are with that power cord sooner or later that sucker is gonna eat that cord for lunch.  And you better be carefull with them ten fingers, Iv'e heard some frightful stories about belt sanders and fingers.

        1. CAGIV | Dec 05, 2002 06:12am | #44

          I was using a belt sander above my head, lost my balance and fell off the step latter, only one of those 2 foot short ones,  landed on my back the sander came down landed on my stomach, before it took off across the room it managed to remove a patch of skin about 4 inches wide 10 inches long across my stomach.  Most painful thing I have ever had because it hurt anytime I bent over....

          1. allenschell2 | Dec 05, 2002 06:15am | #45

            Ouch!!!! Lord have mercy!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOO

          2. CAGIV | Dec 05, 2002 06:16am | #47

            Yeah, I make sure I am very stable now anytime I have to use it above my head, it doesnt come up often but every time it does I shudder lol

          3. kennedy136 | Dec 05, 2002 07:28am | #52

            Cag,

                    Think how painful it would have been if was 6 inches lower.

                                                                     Mark

          4. CAGIV | Dec 05, 2002 07:32am | #53

            never thought of that but now I feel lucky that it landed on my stomach lol

        2. HammerHarry | Dec 07, 2002 03:12am | #56

          You realise that there are people who RACE belt sanders?

          http://www.beltsander-races.com

          I guess everything has its purpose.

          1. ReinTaul | Dec 07, 2002 04:42am | #57

            That's like letting an infinite number of orbital sanders loose and seeing if they could sand out all the great classics on a table.

            Now where is that stuff I was smokin'...Women and men of wit are dangerous tools,And ever fatal to admiring fools.

            - John Wilmot second Earl of Rochester

          2. kdinger3 | Dec 07, 2002 05:11am | #58

            thats not belt sander racin !!!

            your soppose to ride the sander!

            i went to a vocational high school and was in carpentry shop

            there were alot of detentions for riding belt sanders you got two sanders and two 50 ft extensioin two nuts to ride them and two lookouts whoever pulled the plug out of the sander first won if you got caught you both lost

          3. Sancho | Dec 09, 2002 05:00am | #59

            Harbor Freight..thats says it allAt Darkworks  Customer satisfaction Job One..Yea yea were all over it...

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            BossHog | Dec 09, 2002 05:22am | #60

            Maybe this doesn't qualify for "most annoying tool", but how about the "Dumbest tool idea".

            I was checking out of ACE Hardware today, when I saw a box of screwdrivers on the counter. They're the kind where you can store several bits on them, and easily swap them out.

            The dumb thing (to me anyway) was that they were painted in a camo scheme.

            Don't know about you, but I lose enough tools. Don't need to be trying to hide the things so I can't easily see them. Early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

          5. CAGIV | Dec 09, 2002 06:21am | #61

            You think the camo scheme is a bad idea, at the ace around here on the checkout lanes they have those little hammers, where you can uscrew the bottom and theres a screw driver in them, anway they are painted pink yellow powder blue etc, with little flowers painted on them they cost about 10 bucks or so, 

            What exactly can you do with a girly painted hammer?

          6. jimblodgett | Dec 09, 2002 06:24am | #62

            Put in your F*rd, right next to your sidewinder.

            Brinkmann for president in '04

          7. MarkH128 | Dec 09, 2002 06:47am | #63

            Now Jim,

            I can see yer point about the sidewinders, but what's wrong with the Fords?

          8. CAGIV | Dec 09, 2002 09:01am | #65

            well I like my sidewinder it has its place, and Ilike  Ford but to hell if you will ever catch me with a flower painted hammer :)

            Edited 12/9/2002 1:10:46 AM ET by CAG

          9. AndyEngel | Dec 09, 2002 08:35pm | #67

            I'd heard that Jim bought a new truck, but that turned out not to be the case. It was a Chevy.

            <SEG>

            Andy Engel, The Former Accidental Moderator

          10. Nails | Dec 09, 2002 08:37pm | #68

            J.B............Friend of mine said wormdrives were mad out of old broken Ford parts , that why there so many of them.HeHeHe

          11. FrankB89 | Dec 09, 2002 09:01am | #64

            ...what exactly can you do with a girlie hammer?

            Rap girlies on the noggin' and drag them into your cave!Jules Quaver for President   2004

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            BossHog | Dec 09, 2002 03:20pm | #66

            The hammers with little flowers are designed for impulse sales for women. I think those kind of hammers are kinda neat - All them little screwdrivers inside. Trouble is, the quality is lousy. Children are like wet concrete. Whatever falls on them makes an impression.

        3. mitch | Dec 14, 2002 07:01pm | #72

          first runner-up: the sears shopvac, that, as i put it to their return department, "It doesn't suck, and that sucks."

          grand prize: a delta 17-900 drill press with too many faults to bother listing.

          mitch

    2. ReinTaul | Dec 05, 2002 02:32am | #39

      I think those powerpainters would also qualify for the "most often found at a garage sale" award.

      If the damn things actually work, they get sold right after the fence is painted. If they don't, they get sold anyway. Nobody can find an excuse to keep one of those things lying around.

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      AaronRosenthal | Dec 20, 2002 09:54am | #85

      Me too, me too!At my age, my fingers & knees arrive at work an hour after I do.

      Aaron the HandymanVancouver, Canada

  13. clwebb | Dec 07, 2002 01:17am | #54

    Hi Guys,

    I have been pretty lucky so far, but I recently purchased a bostitch magnesium, nailer(18 gauge brad) and a magnesium Stapler (1.5" 1/4" crown). Both leaked like sieves around the trigger and would not shoot reliably. Took 'um back to Lowes and they traded them out for me, now the stapler works but the brad gun has the same problem. Any one have similar problems with these tools? The brad gun is a bt200K 5/8 to 2 inch gun. The stapler is a sx150 1/2" to 1 1/2" stapler. I really like the guns but I just want them to shoot. I would take the gun back again, but I don't want another bad one. I will probably just get it warranty repaired.

    Chris

  14. tattooedluvbeast | Dec 07, 2002 02:34am | #55

    most annoying tool would be anything by Ryobi. disposable tools if you ask me. if you make your living with your tools, you buy ones that last. also, another annoying tool is the one that gets stolen. take my TV , I'm mad you came into my house, but take away my means to make a living and I will hunt you down. tattoo

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      AaronRosenthal | Dec 20, 2002 10:02am | #86

      I have 3 Ryobi tools - a 4½ angle grinder, and 21"x3 belt sander and an electric plane.

      All 3 are superb tools, but they are all 220volt I bought while living in South Africa. At that time the Ryobi agent told me they were Makitas in Ryobi colours, and I can tell you they have NEVER let me down. It's a pain dragging the transformer around, but what the heck, they're paid for.

      But, I would never buy a new one.At my age, my fingers & knees arrive at work an hour after I do.

      Aaron the HandymanVancouver, Canada

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        artacoma | Dec 20, 2002 08:56pm | #87

        The most annoying tool today is definately my 10 year old dewalt recip saw with an allen wrench blade clamp.Damm thing just won't quit and that new pc tigerclaw is just so pretty.

        Rik

        1. JohnSprung | Dec 20, 2002 09:47pm | #88

          Most annoying for remodeling are electrically powered hand held circular saws. All of them, worms, sidewinders, left or right hand.  Not one of them can get out of its own way and make a cut anywhere near any existing obstruction.

          -- J.S.

        2. Piffin | Dec 23, 2002 07:12am | #102

          Both my buds have the tigrresaw with the tool-less blade chuck. Once it gets a little grit, you've got to get out the pliers to change blades. I still like mine - until I loose the key,.

          Excellence is its own reward!

          "The first rule is to keep an untroubled spirit.

          The second is to look things in the face and know them for what they are."

          --Marcus Aurelius

          1. riverr1 | Dec 23, 2002 11:34am | #103

            1.) Honda motorcyle tool kits. More then one tool, but hey, they still suck.

            2.) Any tool in a teenagers hand on the weekend.

            3.) Teenagers on the weekend.

            Don

            Edited 12/23/2002 3:36:29 AM ET by Don C.

  15. donmathis | Dec 12, 2002 03:36am | #69

    Visqueen. It's never the same after you take it out of the box. It gets wet, you can lay it out in the sun and it's drying on top and condensing on the bottom. The stored water gets septic. It balls up on the floor and trips you. I know it's handy but irritating none the less.

  16. DHambley2 | Dec 12, 2002 05:49am | #70

    Ryobi sliding compound miter saw. It gets stuck when you try to rotate the motor/saw assembly around to adjust the pitch. Why is that? It's done this for 8 years. Once I wiggle it over, it cuts accuratley, the sliding feature is great but I can't stand the stuck part.

    Someone please steal this from me.

    Darrell

    1. scotcrpntr | Dec 14, 2002 10:27am | #71

      this is more of a love/hate thing:the hitachi positive placement gun.  The weight is right, its smooth action right out of the box, but give it a couple weeks and that fickle little bastid starts getting choosy as to what it will do next:shoot the next nail, jam the next nail, get sticky in the slide, snap the tip,etc. Still it's the greatest thing for saving your fingers on those damn hangers, working overhead, you get the picture(and 10 times lighter than my Pasload thogh not as hardy)  

  17. addius7 | Dec 16, 2002 10:42pm | #73

     Most annoying tool... hmmm... hands down any brand of worthless paint stick on the market. On a remodeling job we got down to the painting at the time there was only two painters me and the other guy this place was a bed and breakfast and the owners wanted every room painted a difrent color. as always i got out my purdy paint roller and my pan (nice big fat plastic one that cleans up like a charm).anyhow funboy whips out his brand new wagner paint stick.i laughed then i laugh now.what a rediculess piece of junk.by the time he got the thing loaded i had half the room done and sence every room was a diffrent color he had to clean that thing constantly also taking an enormous amount of time.I could go on for hours.those things are just crap.In a similar sence the most annoying tool that I own would have to be my extention pole.Like a true moron instead of spending the extra money on a mr longarm i got the cheesy wannabee and have suffered ever sence.cant wait till i snap the thing in two painting a celing.

    1. rez | Dec 17, 2002 01:43am | #74

      Yes the paint stick things. How could I forget. Total piece of sht. In a mad moment of inspiration I bought one off the latenite info commercials where they work so well. Roar! I swap out my dental work for paint/maintenance on the dental office. Seems I was always was pressed to perform in a tight time slot so I thought I'd pull a 'get in and get out fast' routine with the purchase of that wonderful tool. 5 minutes into the job I realized my mistake and boxed the thing back up. Did manage to sell it for half my cost so I got out with a cheap lesson.You pompous egotistical redneck, it's not a ponytail. I'm just getting ready for a mean combover and it'll look a lot better than yours!

       

       

      1. Piffin | Dec 17, 2002 06:25am | #75

        Paint Stick story.

        I was building one where the lady of the house was applying the paint. (notice I didn't say she was painting) She said she could and she wanted to save bucks. One day she got out of the car as we were all sitting down to eat lunch and said enthusiastically, "Wait'll you guys see what I got!"

        My main man rolled his eyes while his helper started to grin. Me? I had to keep a straight face as she told us how fast she'd be able to catch up to us now that she had this wonderful new invention.

        She did a half decent job on that first ceiling tho I noticed she was making fussy noises.

        The next day, She wasn't using it. I asked politely about her new toy.

        "Oh, it's out in the garage." She cheerfully replied.

        When I saw it, it looked like she had really enjoyed smashing it all to pieces on the floor. they were still scattered to kingdom come..

        Excellence is its own reward!

        "The first rule is to keep an untroubled spirit.

        The second is to look things in the face and know them for what they are."

        --Marcus Aurelius

        1. CAGIV | Dec 17, 2002 06:36am | #76

          Forgive my ignorance but what is a "paint stick"?

          1. rez | Dec 17, 2002 11:25am | #77

            Ah , the wonderous paint stick. A true marvel of the 21rst century. Few other inventions have been able to fiangle bucks out of niave pockets as well as the paint stick. Often found on the half-hour late evening info specials, it is a tube with the roller mechanism on the end. You are suppose to be able to fill the tube up with paint., pressurize it and paint perfect dripless walls and trim. Often seen with it's miniature sidekick for the little places. Always found to work perfectly on the shows by audience 'volunteers' and runs circles around the standard roller techniques. A good burn of your money.You pompous egotistical redneck, it's not a ponytail. I'm just getting ready for a mean combover and it'll look a lot better than yours!

             

             

        2. sdr25 | Dec 19, 2002 01:18am | #79

          "When I saw it, it looked like she had really enjoyed smashing it all to pieces on the floor. they were still scattered to kingdom come."

          Hilarious!

          Scott R.

  18. addius7 | Dec 17, 2002 04:11pm | #78

     well boys if the moronic paint stick was'nt bad enough what'ch think of the (amazing do all tool)you know the drill that (with the flip of the switch)turns into a sander,sawsall,jigsaw,bandsaw,crimper,die grinder,drywall cutout tool,impact wrench,can opener,ice shaver,hand mixer,toaster oven,shot put.you all know what i'm talking about.they sell it at around 3 in the morning for 200$ on the home shoping showes.I wouldent use the thing as a bench stop.I'd like to buy one just to smash it with a real tool.

    1. 69firebird | Dec 19, 2002 01:54am | #80

      you guys stay up way too late...........goto sleep!!!!

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        ProDek | Dec 19, 2002 04:59am | #81

        CHA, CHA, CHA, CHEA!!!!Bob

        "Rather be a hammer than a nail"

        1. Sancho | Dec 19, 2002 09:03pm | #82

          those freud divided light router bits what a piece they are...i wasted a good hundred twenty bucks I could of spent at the tav on them 

          At Darkworks  Customer satisfaction Job One..Yea yea were all over it , I got my best guys on it.........

          1. nigelUsa | Dec 20, 2002 05:21am | #83

            Multi-fit screw heads.

          2. MarkH128 | Dec 20, 2002 06:20am | #84

            While those aren't tools, they are most annoying.

          3. sdr25 | Dec 23, 2002 02:32am | #97

            "Multi-fit screw heads."

            I must agree with this. I bought some in a pinch a while time back and recently pitched the lot after trying to use one during a mental lapse.

            As for slotted screws, a onetime coworker told that the slot is only for taking the screw out, these screws are to be installed with a hammer.

            Scott R.

          4. Snort | Dec 23, 2002 03:09am | #98

            Deck-Mate screwheads seem to work much better with square drive, #2 and #3 phillips, and the blue deckmate bit. And, screws are indeed tools, simple machines of the inclined plane type...my wife's a third grade teacher, I know these things...

            My most annoying tool using experience is the Bosch 10" slider with amazing little extension table that's not even close to flush with the main table...made in Taiwan with a German pretense, great marketing... EliphIno!

          5. mitch | Dec 23, 2002 05:06am | #99

            my new least favorite tool is the cheap POS caulking gun that died on me while i was hanging on to a chicken ladder on a 12/12 pitch because some idiot plumber 20 yrs ago thought right off the end of a dormer valley would be a good place for a vent stack!

            m

          6. rez | Dec 23, 2002 05:26am | #100

            mitch- Those caulking guns belong under the rear wheel of your truck so no one is ever tempted to try to use the things again....sitting in his nowhereland.

             

             

    2. booch | Dec 20, 2002 10:23pm | #89

      How about a shopsmith? i never owned one but a neighbor keeps trying to sell me his. I just can't imagine how much setup you'd have to get into in order to make it work. It is the too much money in my pocket alternative to the all-in-one tool you just described.

      I don't think it is worth the effort to carry it out of his basement. Too bad I don't need a boat anchor.

      1. KenHill3 | Dec 21, 2002 06:14am | #90

        Shopsmith is the Kirby vacuum of woodworking equipment.

        Ken Hill

        1. booch | Dec 23, 2002 07:00am | #101

          I always thought Kirby built a good but overpriced product. The Shopsmith I can't testify for.

  19. MrJalapeno | Dec 21, 2002 07:54am | #91

    To All:

     

    There are two of Murphy’s Laws that apply to tools:

     

    1)      The best tool they make is barely good enough.

     

    2)      Just because they make it doesn’t mean it works.

     

    My most “annoying” hated bone-headed tool nomination goes to the Slot-headed Screwdriver and Slot-headed screws.  I can’t believe they still make them!  They are better used as can-openers or small pry-bars or ice picks or anything else……...  I throw the screws away!

     

    How many better uses for a Slot-headed Screwdriver can you come up with?????   or Pig sticker or paint stirrer or paint scraper or ……..

     

    Hot!  Hot!

     

    Mr. Jalapeno

     

    1. alias | Dec 21, 2002 08:48pm | #92

      pepper- i.m.h.o. is visually a slot head is more pleasing to the eye than a phillips but thats just my taste. of course thats decorative wise, restoration wise( thats 75% of my business) slots are time- era correct. other than that your definitely right...... slainte......bear

      1. MrJalapeno | Dec 21, 2002 09:45pm | #93

        Hi bear,

        Yea, I know about the era thing.  I have seen the off-set slot of yester year also.  Nothing more frustrating than to be finishing up a resto job and have your slot head screwdriver slip and cause damage.  To tedious.  Yuck!

        It's use on modern day machine screws baffles me though.  Double Maddening Yuck!

        Hot! Hot!

        Mr Jalapeno

        1. ReinTaul | Dec 21, 2002 10:02pm | #94

          I seem to remember seeing a slot head screwdriver advertised in a catalogue. The advertisement promoted it for all sorts of non screw driving (screwing?) related tasks. I thought it was funny that they gave up on it's original purpose.

          Perhaps another thread on tools that are better used for other than their original purpose would be in order?Women and men of wit are dangerous tools,And ever fatal to admiring fools.

          - John Wilmot second Earl of Rochester

          1. MrJalapeno | Dec 21, 2002 10:42pm | #95

            To:       John Wilmot second Earl of Rochester

             

            That catalogue seems to point out the obvious.  It makes me wish I were first to re-invent the slot-headed screwdriver.  Duh!

             

            I know that they already seem to be “prank” tools.  Can you imagine watching a friend trying to use one with a “Teflon Tip”?  

             

            I like that Idea of yours for a thread!  “Tools that work better than intended as a…….” (No boat anchors please!)

             

            Hot! Hot!

             

            Mr. Jalapeno

          2. ReinTaul | Dec 22, 2002 12:15am | #96

            Or how about: "How many amps does your doorstop draw?" or "Replacement bits for hammers".

            Perhaps we really shouldn't go down that path.Women and men of wit are dangerous tools,And ever fatal to admiring fools.

            - John Wilmot second Earl of Rochester

  20. addius7 | Mar 07, 2003 01:52am | #110

    ha ha ha new computer and i'm back in the swing of things and ready to gripe about worthless tools.while i was taking a break form kicking the crap out of my old computer i decided to do some light pluming repair in my house.(yup unemployed for the season and i been looking for stuff to do)so i took a stroll over to lowes home emprovement ripoffs and what do my wondering eyes do appear but a big jolly fat man eight tiny idiots and two stupid strap wrenches.i dont rember the name,wonder wrench,terrific turner,give us 20 bucks and will make you really mad.what ever it was i've never felt so violated in my life.currently i'm working on some engineering changes.i'm looking into configuring the strap wrench into a sling shot so i can fill up a paint stick and huck some paint at tall buildings hopefully saving on scaffolding. 

  21. mccjh | Jan 22, 2009 01:39am | #112

    For sure staple guns lead the pack, I've returned every electric stapler available, that left me we the squeeze type which cause the most sever hand cramps I've ever had, then there's the good old hammer stapler, it was heaven for awhile but now it's taken to jamming too. A few strikes that leave only dents I look at the back of the head for the tell-tell bar sticking up that means ..clear the jam before continuing.

    jm

    1. Henley | Jan 22, 2009 02:45am | #113

      I used to stretch canvas for a living. I've worn out,

      broke em all.

      The squeeze kind are the only ones that last, but will

      give you carpultunnel before your done.

      This is the only one, but it takes some getting used to.

      Push down on the front, don't squeeze.

      View Image

      1. reinvent | Jan 22, 2009 03:46am | #114

        Don't go electric, go pneumatic!
        I do not know which models take the same staples as a T50 but a bunch of them do and many can be fired like an automatic machine gun.http://www.grexusa.com/grexusa/prod_type.php5?prod_type=Fine%20Wire%20Staplers

        1. Henley | Jan 22, 2009 03:50am | #115

          good point. It would have had to be T50 for me.
          We made artist canvases and they were picky about the fasteners. A couple insisted on brass tacks!

          Try stretching a 10'x 25' canvas with tacks!

          1. User avater
            Sphere | Jan 22, 2009 05:06am | #116

            http://www.surebonder.com/products.asp?choice=VD22&prod_sub_cat_id=48&prod_cat_id=22&staple_gun_prod_id=176Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

            Repairs, Remodeling, Restorations

             

            They kill Prophets, for Profits.

             

             

          2. GraniteStater | Jan 22, 2009 07:21am | #117

            Just got one of those!It's pretty slick... and was only $30.Not much more than many of the manual staplers cost.

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            PeterJ | Jan 22, 2009 10:15pm | #124

            Did that come from Sphere's link for $30? 

            Everything will be okay in the end.  If it's not okay, it's not the end. 

          4. GraniteStater | Jan 23, 2009 02:14am | #127

            Local hardware store.I just looked at receipt... it was $33.49.

          5. Henley | Jan 22, 2009 03:26pm | #120

            Looks like a winner!

          6. User avater
            Sphere | Jan 22, 2009 03:29pm | #121

            I was doing a load of screen doors when I got one from HF..THEN I found out it won't take T50 staples..Grrrrr..but it was only like 19 bucks, and thier staples are pretty cheap in a big brick...I just keep it sep. from other T50 ones.

            I'll someday get that one shown.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

            Repairs, Remodeling, Restorations

             

            They kill Prophets, for Profits.

             

             

          7. Henley | Jan 22, 2009 03:54pm | #122

            Yeah, I wouldn't use it all that often now but it's
            going on the list. I just went to a HF store for the first time.
            Picked up a 10" 2.5hp wet saw for $200.00
            Some of there prices just don't make sense.

          8. KenHill3 | Jan 22, 2009 08:09pm | #123

            "Some of there prices just don't make sense."Exactly. Like $75 for a sliding compound miter saw that is only worth the scrap value of the metal it's made from.

            Edited 1/22/2009 12:10 pm by kenhill3

          9. Henley | Jan 23, 2009 02:42am | #128

            Yeah, buyer beware for sure. Some things did seam pretty good.
            Like tool bags, and machine stands. Things that
            don't require precision.

        2. mccjh | Jan 23, 2009 12:39am | #126

          I do like machine guns!

  22. MSA1 | Jan 23, 2009 12:20am | #125

    My Paslode trim nailer has two annoying features. First, if i'm ever trying to hold a piece "just so", when I try to shoot, i'll be out of nails.

    The second, putting in that last nail (in a really prominent spot), the gun will misfire leaving a bent up nail protruding 1/2" out of the trim and God help you if you try to pull it.

     

    Family.....They're always there when they need you.

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