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   woodroe | Dec 10, 2005 03:20am | #1

   How about using biscuits to join blocks and casing. You would have to cut the slots from the back side of both. Not an option though if you're using thin and narrow casings.

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   jw0329 | Dec 10, 2005 04:13am | #2

   If you make your rosettes thicker (1/4" or so) than the casing, you can hide alot of the differences this way.  I biscuit and assemble on the ground, allow about 1/2 hr to dry, and then lift them right into place.  Just make sure you check everything before its glued together with a dry run.

   Jim W.
   Coventry Woodworking

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   andybuildz | Dec 10, 2005 04:45am | #3

   I've always simply predrilled the rosette in one of their recess details and used finish nails along with PL glue to the trim. Never had a problem. That PL is tough stuff....specially' the PL Premium! Oh yeh...I always rough sand the rosette in the area I am going to add glue before hand to get the haze off for best adhesion.
   Be well
   andy

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   Waters | Dec 10, 2005 07:55am | #4

   I once found the reclaimed 2 1/4" colonial casings pulled out of a whole house at the scrapyard.  I bought them all for 35$  The guy who pulled all the material out was even thoughtful enough to bundle them in organized fashion with cellophane as they came out.

   Because they were mitered they'd mostly be too short to reuse, so I made a bunch of rosettes so that I could just lop off the points and go with it.

   I bought a rosette cutterhead for another 35$ and set to figure out how to use it best with my crappy drill press.  I devised a simple jig to hold the blocks and made about 40 of them out of a clear old fir 2x4 and it was really fun to watch the big cutter shape 'em.

   It all turned out great and because the blocks were at least a 1/4" 'prouder' than the casings, the defects in the remodel were no trouble at all.

   I'd just cut to length and put one side of door casing up, place the rosette on top of it, shim it in the corner if need be and POW with my finish nailer.  (This assuming the blocks are going at the top.  If you're going to do plinths too-at the the bottom, then I'd think about biscuits too.)

   It was wayyy easier than mitered casing.

   Best of luck!

   Pat

    

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   razzman | Dec 10, 2005 08:12pm | #9

   That was a nice find. Especially thinking of the labor you saved as if you had salvaged them yourself. 

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   joeh | Dec 10, 2005 08:11am | #5

   U buying them or making your own?

   If you have a rosette cutter you can make them whatever size works best with your trim.

   Couple brads and glue will hold them to the wall.

   Cutters are kinda pricey, but if you have a drill press there's no trick to it. Doesn't take too many to recoup the price of the cutter.

   Joe H

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   JeffBuck | Dec 10, 2005 09:43am | #6

   "It seems that the sheet rock is never exactly flush with the jamb so I am wondering how to deal with that."

    

   bigger hammer.

   Jeff

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7. 
   Matt | Dec 10, 2005 06:38pm | #7

   A few related thoughts....

   First, using rosettes are either going to preclude you from using pre-cased doors which will significantly increase the trim-out labor.  Either that, or you will be using pre-cased doors but cutting out the mitered top corners, which will be a little tricky to get it right.

   I think it is "architecturally correct" to use rosettes that are slightly larger than your casing.  Say, 3.25" casing and 3.5" rosettes.  Also, I think rosettes are pretty much a Victorian trim detail.  Someone correct me if I'm wrong on these (like I have to ask) :-)

   The other day in Lowes I noticed that they had 3 sizes of rosettes and some designs other than the standard "bulls eye".

   As far as the installation, I'd pre-assemble - but that's just me... 

    

8. 
   jako17 | Dec 10, 2005 07:28pm | #8

   A few more thoughts,I make a lot of Victorian trim for old house restoration .Most of the casings are 7/8 and 6in wide and the rosettes are 1in to 1inch and 1/8 thick by 6and 1/4 square .I turn the rosettes as the usually need to match existing styles.They are mounted with the grain running vertically,biscuited to the head and toe nailed to the side casing this seems to allow for wood movement quite well