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   cwolf | Dec 31, 2004 05:48am | #1

   In years past I've simply used 8x10's or 12's with both ends beveled on the bottom so that the building could be dragged. 16' bldg would need 18 or 20' skids. If it's a shop you will need a decent wood floor and insulation which means a couple of steps up. If it's a horse or cattle shelter it could have a clay or other floor which means you'll need to install temporary ties or joists to keep it all square. Its almost easier to always have a solid floor  and keep any ramp less pitched than a trailer would be.

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   rez | Dec 31, 2004 06:01am | #2

   Greetings zoe, Welcome to Breaktime.

   By being able to move do you mean moving it around on the property as in dragging or moving it a distance as in off the property?

    

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   pye | Dec 31, 2004 07:49am | #3

   We've got a guy locally that makes a portable storage building that size to rent, I've used them a couple of times for job site storage on products. The building is built on two pressure treated skids of 4x6, he bevels the underside a little so they can be pulled on and off a flatbed truck and moved around jobsites. His link is http://www.rentmestorage.com. You can click on the site and look at his setup and how he bevels the skids.

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   slykarma | Dec 31, 2004 07:59am | #4

   Check out this link.

   http://www.happyharry.com/shacks.htm

   I had one of these mounted on a metal frame and skids and the local ski hill uses it as a movable shack for timing races. With care, it can be moved with a snowmobile, although they normally use a snowcat.

   Now I know they aren't as big as what you were talking about, but the use of the panels is a good idea for a lightweight structure. We've tried a few different things over the years at the ski hill, and the buildings always get damaged during moves because of the heavy weight of the structure and the resultingly large forces needed to move it. If the building is to be moved more than once or twice, make every effort to make it as light and stiff as possible.

   Wally

   Lignum est bonum.
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   davidmeiland | Jan 01, 2005 05:35am | #5

   We have a small shed... 9 x 12, stick framed, wood sided, 8:12 gable with barnmetal roof... and the joists (9 feet long) are laid across a pair of girders (12 feet long). It's a piece of cake to move with a crane, just sling under the girders and it flies. I needed to move it so I could build a deck. A guy about 2 miles away has a 20-ton crane on wheels and he came over and did it in 45 minutes. He thought my building weighed about 2.5 tons and said he had moved much larger.

   This has come up before and some folks move buildings on rollers made of pipe or wood. I'd do that if the site was level, and/or I owned an Army-surplus tank.

   The main thing is to have floor framing. Build it with a slab floor and it's not moving easily.

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   VaTom | Jan 02, 2005 02:07am | #6

   This has come up before and some folks move buildings on rollers made of pipe or wood. I'd do that if the site was level, and/or I owned an Army-surplus tank.

   I got called in when the local shed-on-a-trailer folks couldn't place a 12x20 due to lack of traction.  First pulled their 4x4 dually (with trailer) into place with my crawler.  He still couldn't back in.  For some odd reason he didn't want me pushing on the front of his new Ford.  Then I snatchblocked off a substantial tree so I could use my duece-and-a-half winch to pull on the shed and trailer (with attached dually). 

   Driver had never seen such an apparatus.  Asked what I wanted him to do, I told him to watch, his truck was about to go where I pulled it.  Dually, trailer, shed all went right into place.  Then I had to drag his truck out.  Army surplus is good.  Not to mention fun.

   That building was set on 2 skids which turned out to be amazingly sturdy when I started jacking the building.  Turned out the owner did a really crappy job preparing the spot.  I had to raise one end up over 2' to get the pingpong table anywhere close to level.  PAHS Designer/Builder- Bury it!

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   Sphere | Jan 02, 2005 06:27pm | #8

   We won't discuss my adventure with the IH scout..LOLI didn't ferget yer seeds, just a lot of holiday stuff messin w/my "get this in the mail" schedule.I just ordered my 50 chickens, to be here in march. Pushin sprng a bit I know, but, I can dream. 

   Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

   I'll just do it>

    

    

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   VaTom | Jan 03, 2005 05:28am | #9

   42913.37  the one?  Sure enjoyed it last time around.  LOL

   Haven't tilled the garden yet this year.  Figured I'd bug you later.  You'll get yours when you send an address. 

   And John flaked out on me 3 times in a row with the roofing tools.  This is getting old.  Might be time to get a set of my own.

   Good luck with the chickies.  PAHS Designer/Builder- Bury it!

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   Sphere | Jan 03, 2005 07:04pm | #10

   From the looks of Greencu's crimpers, any body with a welder and some steel bits could fab them up...the first one is a square mandrel type doo dad..and follower is just a flattener outter. the handle are just loops of round stock.No tilling my patch this yr. TOO many weeds get brought up..I am going for super duper mulch beds ( and moving the entire operation into more sun, the trees were leafier than I anticipated) and path ways.I may plant 2 acres in tobacco if I don't reserve that plot for chestnut tree starts. going to try to get 200 american chestnut seedlings.
   http://www.ameicanchestnutfoundation.org I think. 

   Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

   I'll just do it>

    

    

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   VaTom | Jan 03, 2005 10:22pm | #11

   From the looks of Greencu's crimpers, any body with a welder and some steel bits could fab them up...the first one is a square mandrel type doo dad..and follower is just a flattener outter. the handle are just loops of round stock.

   No idea what those are.  What was that about a picture being worth a thousand words?  Pedal seamers are what I was after.  Often called "stompers".  My brief experience was with them. 

   There is one local roofing-only place here, unfortunately closed today.  Went by there with another friend this am who needs a standing seam roof on a shed immediately and a copper roof on his house sometime later this year.  We went down to a large roofing co. he's used, for his employer, to see the choices of roofing.  Manager offered to form pans for me.  But the pans he showed me needed a different tool from the stompers.

   Jim offered to pay for half a set of seamers.  I don't really have much idea where to go for them.  Get on the internet tonight I guess.  Hard to believe that I can't round up a pair sitting in a friend of a friend's shed somewhere here, but I've been beatin' the bushes pretty hard.

   I compost between my raised beds.  Makes it easy for weed disposal.  Then at the end of winter I shovel the compost into the beds and hit them with a Mantis.  Dirt's getting really good.  Mostly depleted the weed seed bank by now.  But my volume's a lot less than yours.

   Don't you have to have a tobacco allotment?  Knew somebody a little S of here who did very well with a small crop.  I thought about growing domestic ginseng on my roof until I learned that I'd do much better with a "wild" crop in the woods, which I still haven't done.  Mostly I'm just thinking to sell some boards out of the trees that are already here- if I can ever get a roof on my drying/storage building, which is neither moveable nor small.  At least I think that was the thread... PAHS Designer/Builder- Bury it!

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   Sphere | Jan 03, 2005 10:43pm | #12

   I'll be seeing G tomorrow, but I don't know what job the guys have the crimpers are on..might be the same roof I'll be at (if it's dry). They have some more copper there and I have a ton of shakes to get on.Maybe he can find ya some supplier or a pic/drawing for them. real simple looking.I can grow up to 5k$ I think with in the law. at 2$ a lb. and 1000lb and acre I am safe. 4k$ for the effort to plant the starts, and cultivate once or twice.  EDIT: I'd pass on the 'sang...it just don't have the same wallop as wild 'sang.this concludes our hijack, back to the scheuled programming.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural WoodworksI'll just do it>  

   Edited 1/3/2005 2:44 pm ET by SPHERE

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   IMERC | Jan 02, 2005 03:34am | #7

   ask rez...

   he's got a yard full of 'em..........

   Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming

   WOW!!!   What a Ride!