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The happiest day of my life is coming up, no not graduation, I will get to move from my 8’X13′ shop to the 22’X19′ garage. Yes i do have to share w/ cars, but I will gladly do that. Would y’all be kind enough to post pics of your garage shop and tell about great space saving tips. another concern is possiple moisture problems, do any of you have mositure probs in your garage? |
there’s no need to reinvent the wrench
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Everything on wheels, to start.
Good planning is the next thing.
Think like your on a boat.
Forrest
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there's no need to reinvent the wrench
Buy a couple of car wraps. Help keep you from having to wash the parents cars the day after you decide that you just have to spend the late night sanding that last bit of work.
They can't get your Goat if you don't tell them where it is hidden.
I would just have them pull out the car at the begining of the day because there would be no work room otherwise. At least until I'm 16, then I move the cars teheehee
there's no need to reinvent the wrench
Edited 6/5/2008 12:52 am ET by andyfew322
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there's no need to reinvent the wrench
We are to the point where the cars don't go in the garage. I know this isn't your descision but for what it's worth cars are really low on our list in our family. I don't care if they are dirty, cold, or hot. As long as they run and are safe they do their job and they don't have to be inside to do that.
I'm getting to the point where I really dislike cars.
I'll take some of mine this weekend when I get back in town and clean it up. I recently added a heavy bag. I don't share with cars though.
Ghey unicorns????
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-VBpLQSPD8&feature=relatedracks near the ceiling... stuff stored high won't mind share'n it's space with a car
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good idea thanks
there's no need to reinvent the wrench
I've seen work benches that fold up to the wall when not in use--seems like a good idea where space is limited.
only problem I see is that possibly not as sturdy as i could like
there's no need to reinvent the wrench
Yeah, I wondered about that myself.
i have jammed everything in my shop and have no more room,.
my roof leaks and im a roofer.
i can give you no advice.
Heck im 55 and i still have not figured out girls .
so cant help you there either
Build the workbench height so that tool stations can roll under it.
Build the rolling tool stations sothey feed out at the same height and can be used together.
FHB or FWW had/has articles on it... Don't know which issues.
I saw that issue (tools and shop FWW)
very useful
there's no need to reinvent the wrench
I KNOW more of you have garage workshops please help w/ pics, and tips
there's no need to reinvent the wrench
How much room around the cars do you have. In front, left side, right side. Gotta leave room on the left side for mom to get out. Do you folks drive Hondas or Hummers?Wheels/Mobile bases. I like the mobile base kits where the wheels and brackets bolt to the corner of a piece of appropriatly sized plywood. It allows extra storage space that just moves with the tool.I built a "mobile" wood cart that holds sheet goods and cutoffs. I can barley move it around it is so stinkin heavy. But it does provide fairly decent organization of the cut offs.That said, I'll say this: Do not feel you need to keep/save every piece of scrap. They will soon overwhelm you to the point you can't evey go through it it use any of it. Come up with a minimum size you want to keep and stick to it. (I need to put that on a 3x5 card and put on my mirror)I save usable scrap. The smaller stuff I started cutting up into 3" by 3" pads. I use them for shims as needed. Used one today as backup while drilling holes cabinet pulls (turned it 45* and held in place with a pony clamp, but I digress.)I use a work table of 4' x 4' sheet of 3/4 ply over some saw horses (stablemates) Works well, easily knocked down for storage.You may start setting mom, or maybe dad, about leaving a car out while a project is underway. Sometimes you just can't make it all disappear for the night.TFB (Bill)
do you have a pic of that scrap cart? that could be good
there's no need to reinvent the wrench
No pics, I'd have to move the pressure washer, drill press, router table, dust collector and band saw out of the way. But to move any of that I'd have to move the two piles of scrap that I moved from the shed to go through and get rid of. One pile is to be those 3" pads, one is to cut up as a burn material for the DW fire pit (no glues or PT stuff)I do have an end view drawing for you though, the whole thing probably 6 feet long. The left side is for bigger sheets, the center section works well for molding/trim shorts/ The right side is a series of cubbies for standing up short sticks and smaller widths. Could have built mine with fewer dividers there, it is either very limiting or designed to force discipline for sorts stock. I got the plan out of a workshop storage solutions paperback. I'll try to find it and get you the real name. This drawing does not show the casters on each corner.TFB (Bill)
Edited 6/5/2008 11:05 pm by ToolFreakBlue
that's smart, I'm defantly building that
there's no need to reinvent the wrench
Andy,I finally uncovered and found the book."The Complete Book of Woodworking" page 450TFB (Bill)
cool thanks.
One last question about waxing machines, how often do I re-apply?
Silence is golden, but ducktape is silver
Once a year maybe. Really it depends upon wear. When things don't glide across the surface, might be time to re-apply.
TFB (Bill)
Andy,I have a garage workshop and work professionally in a small cabinetmaking workshop. My best advice is some that has already been given: Put everything on wheels...specifically double locking casters. The ability to move is above all important allowing you to work on multiple projects, move for the cars, easily stow away lesser used machines, put clamps and consumables nearer to the work, move outside for extra dusty work or to spray a finish.I recently found this ebay seller for casters and was amazed by the quality for the price, about $7 delivered.http://stores.ebay.com/SES-CastersAnother major piece of advice is to get some heat and a/c in that garage! If you don't you can expect to find unusable glue, caulk, and paint. Not to mention Rust on all those nice new steel tools and machines. First step is to insulate the garage to the same standards as the rest of the house. The overhead doors can be insulated by gluing ridgid insulatioin to the inside. Next is to get a used furnace. I have a simple propane gravity wall furnace (closed flame) that I got for free but often see for sale cheap. It is set for 50 degrees and easily keeps things from freezing. For the summer I use cheap box fans pointing out each of 4 windows. By opening the garage doors about 6 inches and turning on the fans I can change out the air in about 5 minutes.My last bit of advice is to get the proper amount of power for whatever machinery you have and plan to have. Most "good" machines use 230v power and need special wiring/plugs/circuit breakers. but even smaller 115v machines may be too much for a inadequately wired garage (ALOT of garages are wired indadequately; especially in garages built before 1980). In my garage, I added an upgradable 60A sub-panel that controls everything but the lights and garage door openers. The dust collector, air compressor, and tablesaw have their own 230v circuits. All 115v outlets are wired 20A with GFCI and I made sure to put a protected outside plug for working outside. All the 230v wiring is in exposed metal conduit and 115v wiring is in the wall.hope it helpsgk
Edited 6/19/2008 10:33 am ET by Dreamcatcher
can you use ridged foam insulation on the inside of wooden garage door?
Silence is golden, but ducktape is silver
"can you use ridged foam insulation on the inside of wooden garage door?"Yes.....unless you would rather put it on the outside of the door, but I don't think that would jive with mom and dad.My dad has wood garage doors with rigid inside. I think he just used construction adhesive to attatch it. I will have to ask 'cause it's hard to tell with him, he likes to do things hokey sometimes.My doors are wood but insulated inside.gk
You can use 1/2 and 3/4 EMT to make sturdy hooks for hanging stuff from the rafters. Save money and get custom hooks.
(If you have a truss roof in the garage, be aware that they are often not designed to be loaded with stuff in storage. Truss bits on floor - you get yelled at.)
Sharing with cars? My garage used to have a storage platform that hung from 2x4s from the rafters. Nose of car ran in under it. Gone now but I use the rafter bay spaces for all sorts of material storage.
We covered the walls in pegboad. Quite useful. Spray painted everything white with 5g of primer. Ran new lights and outlets.
Built a pair of 8'x24" work benches that run down one side.
Built a set of shelves (2x3 and OSB) that run around the walls at the 5.5' level, secured to the studs with 2x3 and OSB gusseted hangers.
Built an 18" wide rolling materials stand that holds lumber, pipe, metal, ply, etc.
The ToolBear
"I am still learning." Goya
EMT is.....
the garage is fully drywalled/cemented, but no prob to find joists
Silence is golden, but ducktape is silver
EMT is...electro mechanical tubing (or something like that)Thinwalled galvanized tubing used as electrical conduit. Common sizes at Home D, etc. Stiffer and cheaper than those screw-in hooks. Besides, your fasteners will be in shear, not in tension.Cut with a hacksaw and bend with the right sized conduit bender. I have a lot of 1/2" EMT hooks for air hose, extension cords, a pair of miter saw stands, miter saw ply base plates (attach to stands), ladders, assorted lengths of copper tubing, PVC, EMT, pipe, piano movers, anything I can get off the floor and up overhead.Drill a pair of holes in the vertical "up" leg and run a set of deck screws into the rafter/joist. BTW - the guy who said "wheels" is so right. Harbor Freight has reasonable prices on casters and such.The ToolBear
"I am still learning." Goya
I was thumbing through issue 193 this morning on the crapper and was reminded about the job-site shop perfected article. They have a couple of pretty cool benches in there you should check out.
Ghey unicorns????
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-VBpLQSPD8&feature=related