My 14.4 Default is finally giving up …. loose part inside and ‘electrical smell’ – doesn’t sound too good either.
So I hear that there are chuck runout problems with the 18V so that leaves me with – Makita? Any others?
TIA
Jeff
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Any Panasonic but the 18 volt.
Metabo makes some very good ones.
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I was given a 14.4 Ryobi 7 years ago. I thought it wouldn't last. A two pack of replacement batteries is around $35. You can buy three or four drills for the cost of one of the bigger names. I work circles around any other drill that shows up on the job. It really ticks guys off that have spent big money on their drills.
Beat it to fit / Paint it to match
Thanks so far - any other recommendations?Jeff
I have two 14.4v Ryobi's that apparently intend to outlive me. A lot of people badmouth Ryobi, but I've had several of their tools and they've worked quite well for me.
I've been eyeballing the new Ryobi 18v Lithium-Ion stuff and dropping hints about Xmas. If Santa is good to me this year, my SIL may just inherit one of my 14.4's
My Dewalt batteries crapped out, I just bought the Ryobi 18 volt circular saw,drill, flashlight,two batteries and storage bag for $109.00 at HD. I plan on picking up the impact next week for $69.00.
The drill has lots of power and a heavy duty feel. I do not care about the lithion batteries, because I do not work hard enough to wear down a battery most days, if I stop to charge the batteries, oh well good time for a break.
The benefit I've found with the Ryobi LiIon batteries is that they are charged when you want to use them... yo9u don't have to worry about topping them off before you can commit to a task.Rebuilding my home in Cypress, CA
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Well taken. I will more than likely move up to liIon in the future.
THANKS
I have the Makita 18v Lithium Ion Impact driver and their drill driver, but I only use the drill driver for small screws. I love the combination The impact drivers seems as though it could drive screws all day long and because I'm not using the drill to drive screws, it last a lot longer. I bought both from Coastal Tool and was very impressed. They seem to have been able to provide customer service while still having low prices. I have no vested interest in them other than trying to keep a place in business that manages to provide some customer service.
http://www.coastaltool.com
got the Makita 18v lithium drill, works great, shorter nose to tail than the dewalt 14.4 and lighter too...199USD at home cheapo...
Expert since 10 am.
Thanks ... I'm leaning toward Makita - weight is important and the DW 18V is heavy.
Jeff
Jeff,
The new Dewalt 18volt Nano is supposed to be as light as a 12volt. But the price is substantially more.
All my cordless are Dewalt, and my 14.4 batts are starting to wear down. So, I am considering the new 18v.
Just waiting for the rest of them to quit.
Bryan
"Objects in mirror appear closer than they are."
Klakamp Construction, Findlay, Ohio - just south of the Glass City
Edited 11/28/2007 5:54 pm ET by BryanKlakamp
Thanks!
Jeff
GOOD LORD! Are you looking to buy a drill to drive screws? WWHHHHHYYYYYYYY?
Sorry, my smartazz key was on, there - now it's off.
The Ryobi 18v impact driver seems to put up with an awful lot of dropping onto concrete, as I've done many dozens of times now. At least as powerfull as all the others out there, and bats are cheap.
The have a pkg at HD of the Impact Driver and their radio 2 batts and a charger fo something cheap. You can always add the LiIon batteries later too.
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If your hair looks funny, it's because God likes to scratch his nuts. You nut, you.
The drawback with impact drivers is you can only use 1/4" quick-change bits. They're great for driving screws and it's convenient to have the quick-change drill bits, but if you have only one drill/driver, it should be a standard drill.--------------------------------------------------------
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...if you have only one drill/driver...
LOL - that's a good one, Ted - snork - gasp -
one driver? maybe 'one of each' - - remember where yer at - -
"there's enough for everyone"
I'm disqualified...
I haven't one of each...
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yer disqualified due to having 4 of everything...
I was in the everything you can imagine tool store last Friday....
nothing at all interested me...
something is seriously wrong here...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
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Allready got all you can imagine?
Or is the new stuff cheesy looking and imported from foreign ports of call deep in the third world?
What hapened to the second world?
I got the department of redundantcy redundently covered....
look at the tools...
they are from everywhere... just need to read the labels for point of origin...
the second world got ate up by the 3rd and 4th worlds...
when ya find stuff that china sub out to another crountry..
watch out...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
You should see a doctor for that. It sounds serious!--------------------------------------------------------
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I am.... several...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
Actually, I have 4 regular cordless drills, an 18 v impact and a bosch pocket impact. That's besides my pc sds max and milwaukee 1-1/2" spline drive. But it sounds like the poster will only have one tool, so jaw chuck it should be. The makita 18v lithium is probably the best bet, but a ryobi is more budgetwise for the average diy'er.
Oh yeah, and a corded dw drill I prolly used once. Oh... and 2 screwguns. hmmm... I think that's it. :D--------------------------------------------------------
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You can get a nice Makita keyless chuck at HD for $22 that has a 1/4 shank.Rebuilding my home in Cypress, CA
Also a CRX fanatic!
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how does a drill bit work with the impact action? - or does the impact driver have different modes of action?
all: you can get a 14.4v makita kit - (driver, impact, light) for $209 - you can get a 18v lith-ion kit (driver, impact, light) for $268
which is the better deal?
"there's enough for everyone"
spade bits and self feeds...
cats meow...
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WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
I tried a spade bit with an impact last weekend for the first time. 1-1/4" I think. The impact was handy -- the drill wasn't. It worked, but was slower than using a honkin' drill to do it. Still, way less twisting on the 'ol wrist.
In tight spaces with larger bits, where I usually end up just about twisting my hand off when the bit catches, this might be just the ticket. I'll still reach for the drill in 99% of the cases where I wanna make a hole tho', and for the impact when I want to sink a fastener.
Mike HennessyPittsburgh, PA
I have the 14.4 NimH kit, Dale has the 18V L-ion. Being as the drill motors are slower RPMs at max, they rarely get use on site, being as we have few uses over 1/4'' drilling ( in copper work that is) and the impacts alone do 99.% of it all.
The L-ion is better in some ways , longer run time, a tad more power. But cold will shutthem down faster than my old 14.4V Nimh..FWIW. Any other drilling we use an sds 18v L-ion. The Dewalt hammer drills have retired pretty much.
For my solo work, I will be upgrading to the DW L-ion and just get new batts, being as I have so many tool bodies, I'll keep the 2 14V Mak drills and 1 impact and 1 flashlight till the day I need to retire them or replace them, probably replace with MAK L-ion.
edit: the chuck adapter I tried didn't last a week..snapped at the shaft from a fall, but still would be a bad choice for daily drilling, I have 3 different sets of hex shank drills, Irwin three flutes are great, Rigid are pretty good ( both self feed) and Hitachi splitpoints for odd ball sizes.
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Edited 11/21/2007 1:05 pm ET by Sphere
The impact mode doesn't kick in till it reaches a certain amount of resistance. Thus, your twist drill bits aren't likely to ever reach impact mode. But spade bits benefit big time from the impact mode, especially when going through 100 year old joists.--------------------------------------------------------
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I absolutely love my Bosch 14.4v. I have had it for 3 plus years and it works great and the battery power lasts for a really long time. It is nice and light and short, too, which makes it nice for tight spots.
I've got the Makita 14.4 NiMH and like it. You can get the drill, impact driver, light, two batteries/charger for about $200 or so. I got the set primarily for the impact driver; I already had a Makita 14.4 drill but I like having four batteries on the jobsite. If I was starting from scratch I'd go with Makita's 18v lithium ion........ better run time.
I have the 18v Milwaukee (2 of them) along with other tools to go along with the set, and it's a very good tool.
I also have a 12v Makita impact, and a 14v Makita drill that I have to get a new set of bats for. Again very good tools.
I have my eye on the Makita 18v compact set of the drill and the impact.
I've had many Makita tools and there has never been a bad one among them. You're wise to go with Makita.
Thanks Jer!
I'll look at the Milwaukee too - I have a corded 1/2" Milwaukee that's incredible.
Jeff
I got this
http://www.cpomakita.com/drivers_and_fasteners/impact_drivers/6935fdwdex?ref=msn6935fdwdex
Very happy. Got the 14.4 because weight. The 1/4 inch driver will drive any wood screw. Paid $217 with shipping from amazon.
I have 2 sets of Bosch 24 V.
I really like em but the replacement batteries are expensive.
They drive anything anytime.
My partner (employee) just got a Ryobi and likes it a lot.
He got a big old kit with everything inc. the hand vacuum and we use the vacuum pretty much very day.
Ended up getting the new 18V Makita. Im impressed -
thanks for the responses.
Jeff
18v Makita... what? Impact driver or drill?Rebuilding my home in Cypress, CA
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I didn't get the impact version ... just driver/drill.
Jeff
Just for posterity's sake (anyone doing a search on this topic, trying to make the same decision as you), why did you choose the one you did, over an impact driver?Rebuilding my home in Cypress, CA
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I wasn't ever considering one ... maybe I should have ...
Although assuming this statement -
"The drawback with impact drivers is you can only use 1/4" quick-change bits. They're great for driving screws and it's convenient to have the quick-change drill bits, but if you have only one drill/driver, it should be a standard drill."
- is true, THAT would be reason enough. It's really useful to have a cordless drill, even though I love my (corded) Milwaukee.
Jeff
Edited 12/26/2007 9:30 am ET by Jeff_Clarke
If you haven't picked one yet, would you be interested in the 18v Milwaukee hammer drill, sans battery? I'm contemplating getting this set,
http://www.heavydutytools.net/Scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=498
but I really don't need the drill. Mainly I want the two saws.
So I would part with the drill and maybe the flashlight pretty cheap. But I'd have to have the batteries.
On Nov. 17th, I answered your OP and talked about my 14.4 Ryobi's. I also mentioned my interest in the 18v Ryobi Li-Ion four tool kit (drill, light, circ saw, and recip saw) as a Xmas present. IT WORKED!!!
Yesterday, Santa Claus (cleverly disguised as my wife, daughters, and SIL) handed me the Ryobi kit! Today, I'm planning on finding something to do to begin breaking it in. - lol
As it turned out, it was also a gift that immediately kept on giving. My SIL is a great guy, but is definitely "tool challenged". (Shortly before they got married, he told me that Chris's tool box was way better than his own - lol.) When they left, he took my old Ryobi 14.4v circ saw, light, charger, and an extra battery. I'm keeping both Ryobi drills for a while since I often use multiple drills. Just 'cause I'm a really nice guy, I also threw in the Makita 14.4v drill stuff that I got free when I bought the Makita LS1013 SCMS.
Ok, enough sitting in front of the 'puter. I'm off to play with my new toys!! - lol