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   BillHartmann | Mar 23, 2006 06:58am | #1

   Yes, but only when you city/state adopts it and with what whatever local admendments.

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   NWCarpenter | Mar 23, 2006 07:05am | #2

   So until that happens the 03 code is in effect?

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   BillHartmann | Mar 23, 2006 07:26am | #3

   Whatever the last code that was adopted is still in effect.It might be the 2003 or it might be an even older one. Some places skip a revision or two.Where I live we are where on the 97 UBC unless last year.Now I am not sure what it is until I read the ordinance, because what was put in the newsletter implies that they improperly adopted an unknow version.

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   brownbagg | Mar 23, 2006 02:13pm | #4

   around here they are on the old model but if you build to the newer model they cannot question the results.. BOB thinks I,m an idiot

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   Soultrain | Mar 23, 2006 04:47pm | #6

   Exactly.  Our town is still under the 2000 IRC

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   NWCarpenter | Mar 25, 2006 07:51am | #7

   I'm going to be building in Port Townsend, WA.  According to the city, the there are two codes in effect - 2003 IRC and 2003 IBC. Why would they use two sets of codes at the same time?

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   plumbbill | Mar 25, 2006 09:17am | #8

   Why would they use two sets of codes at the same time?

   Welcome to Wa state if they can double dip they will.

   On a serious note Mr Meiland just north of ya in the islands can answer to the building codes more than me.

   But in Wa state the plumbing part of the IRC is not in effect the whole state must go by the revised 2003 UPC by law."There are about 550000000 firearms in worldwide circulation. That's one firearm for every twelve people on the planet. The only question is...........How do we arm the other eleven?" Yuri Orlov<!----><!----><!---->

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   BillHartmann | Mar 25, 2006 03:04pm | #9

   The IRC is a subset of the IBC, NEC, plumbing, electrical, mechanical, fire codes but it is limited to 1 and 2 family residences.Thus you don't to wade through things like fire protection in a high rise building to determine what fire protection you need between the house and attached garge, for example. And you have a single book that has everything in it that.However, in most many cases the entity(s) that adopt the codes make small or large changes in them. So you need to also get that information from the AHJ. And as Plumbill indicated for part of the IRC (assuming that this is residential) you might need another code book if that is how they are handling it.

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   plumbbill | Mar 25, 2006 04:44pm | #10

   Yeah us plumbers here in Wa state are a pretty powerfull lobby whn push comes to shove.

   The state was dumping all the "U" codes & going to the "I" codes

   We had about 2000 plumbers & 1500 electricians show up in the state capitol to protest.Do you look to the government for an entitlement, or to GOD for empowerment. BDW

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   jonblakemore | Mar 26, 2006 12:25am | #11

   Why the protest? What are the significant differences? 

   Jon Blakemore RappahannockINC.com Fredericksburg, VA

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   plumbbill | Mar 26, 2006 01:07am | #12

   On plumbing issues the I codes are more relaxed & geared towards the inspectors verses puting the responsibility on the installer.

   Second it would have made us all go buy new code books.

   Through the PDC we found one of the big campaign contributors was the publisher of the "I" code books.Do you look to the government for an entitlement, or to GOD for empowerment. BDW

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   BobKovacs | Mar 26, 2006 03:03am | #13

   Bill-

   You would have had to buy new code books anyway- they change the code every three years or so, whether it's the "U" codes or the "I" codes.  And since the "U" codes have ceased to exist (BOCA, SBCCI, and UBC all got rolled into the new "I" system), it's a moot point anyway.  The only other option is the NFPA codes, which California has been toying with adopting- but who wants building and plumbing codes written by a bunch of Fire Officials?

   Bob

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   plumbbill | Mar 26, 2006 03:37am | #14

   Well that is true about buying new code books when the new books are adopted I'll give ya that.

   That nfpa thing was a mess that was being lobbied for too.

   As a member of IAPMO we put a lot of pain staking debates in what code changes are going to be made.

   Another problem we had with the switch was  less requirements in it that had to be done by licensed plumbers. Which the laborers union was pushing for. We saw how they started moving in on the carps, so we drew the line in the sand.Do you look to the government for an entitlement, or to GOD for empowerment. BDW

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   plumbbill | Mar 23, 2006 02:22pm | #5

   Hey let us know where your from.

   Someone usually has some insight for a paticular area.

   & welcome to BT.

   "There are about 550000000 firearms in worldwide circulation. That's one firearm for every twelve people on the planet. The only question is...........How do we arm the other eleven?" Yuri Orlov