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   The_Tennis_Court_Builder_...on_t | Mar 15, 2001 09:23pm | #1

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   Allen ....You need to go to a Joe Fusco seminar for minimising your bits!

   Cable download of your sticks took half a minute near the stream,

   aj

   Today's carps do things to save time more than anything...But you can always do it "your" way...I do.

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   Bucksnort_Billy | Mar 15, 2001 09:25pm | #2

   *Allen, Maybe I'm missing your question, but that's never stopped me before...We usually line the balusters up with the junction of the return nosing and the tread, and since the pickets are centerd on the newel, the newel has to run through the skirtboard (stringer?). This looks better to me, especially when the the stairs turn, because it separates the two skirts.I'll try to post a pic of both ways.

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   allen_schell | Mar 15, 2001 09:27pm | #3

   *Here is a crude pic of what I'm talking about.....I HATE TECHNOLGY !!!!!!!!!!!A.J. by golly I think I did it!!!!

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   allen_schell | Mar 15, 2001 09:35pm | #4

   *BB,Sorry man I can't even look at yours, check out my little masterpiece drawing....

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   Bucksnort_Billy | Mar 15, 2001 09:41pm | #5

   *Man, Yer right, I lost it there. I think we're talking about the same thing. Sorry about the quality...

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   Stan_Foster | Mar 17, 2001 12:01am | #6

   *Allen: I prefer to let the face of the newel be outside of the nosings. Technically, the front face of the first baluster should be in line with the face of the riser below it. Also, the side face of this baluster should be in line with the face of the skirtboard. Then you have the same nosing reveal in front as well as the sides. These balusters were typically dovetailed into the tread with the return nosing applied to hide the dovetail work.Now lets say you have a typical baluster with a 1.75 inch base. This balusters centerline is then 7/8 of an inch inside the skirtboards face. The newel centerline is of course in line with the balusters centerline. Nosings are typically 1.25 inches, so the newel must have a base width of 1.25 inches + .875 inches X 2.This means that a newel should have a 4.25 inch base just to be flush with the nosing. I like .25 inch reveal also, so one needs a 4.5 inch newel to have a .25 inch reveal outside the return nosing.Unfortunately, most people, and companies prefer smaller newels, usually 3.5 inch bases. So then I have to compromise and hold my balusters out closer to the nosing edge. This is when I then prefer to move the newel inside the skirtboard. You can barely see the top newel in this shot, but it is the way I prefer.I have set them inside the skirtboards in certain situations, but usually the centerline of the newel should be the face of the riser, and face of the skirtboard. This is the most way

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   Joseph_Fusco | Mar 17, 2001 12:18am | #7

   *allen,

   The only time that I would let the newel sit on the tread would be for a volute or turn out. Otherwise I think they should be "cut-in"

   View Image © 1999-2001"The first step towards vice is to shroud innocent actions in mystery, and whoever likes to conceal something sooner or later has reason to conceal it." Aristotle

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   allen_schell | Mar 17, 2001 05:30pm | #8

   *Joe,Well the plant is hiding your transition newell at the tread but I agree 100%, when possible the newell looks much more traditional cut in thru the stringer, unfortunatly I think ease of installation will win out but I'm hanging on to the old way....just looks more craftsmanlike.

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   allen_schell | Mar 17, 2001 05:45pm | #9

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   There seems to be a difference of opinion as to whether a newell should run thru a stringer or sit on top of the tread return. I have seen old pics in some of the books of them running thru and I got it in my head that the stairmanly thing to do is run them thru (bout and inch or so). Many of my fellow workers disagree, it is more trouble and I see many pics of newells on top that look fine. What do you think? Is there a right or wrong or just a preference?