Don’t get me wrong everybody is for saving lives and protecting fire fighters, fine, no problem. We all here are also aware of the horror stories of complying with the NFPA in regards to construction at ALL levels from a simple shed to hospital life safety systems.
Some regulation is necessary like panic bars, sprinkler systems, and egresses etc…that sort of stuff I don’t have a problem with.
However who, when, and how do I join to stop these guy’s monopoly on mother natures gift, and governments’ blind acceptance of their every whim? It’s absurd and has to stop!
Worst is their code is taken for enforceable law without any representation and their a private, money making organization. Their code is only law when adopted by an elected body of law. Which is the other problem. Most counties, cities, towns, villages, etc… are not involved enough to stop and think, and blindly adopt the entire uniform code for all fire protection.
A code that, if apparently is so important should be publicly available, yet you can’t hardly even view it in it’s entirety without paying for, from the NFPA. (Again because their out to fund their occupation.)
My problem is, out of curiosity wanted to find the ordnances related to outdoor fires prior to stoking my hugely dangerous, life threatening, inferno of a back yard fire hearth. You know those raised 16†round metal dishes with wire cage surround, lid, on wheels for your deck. Ya, well my Township adopted the code and even these are illegal. Technically even a charcoal grill if you lit it with newspaper would be illegal. Not that it’s stopped me before or going to tonight.
Anyway, anybody know a counter opposition to the NFPA this absurdity has got to be stopped?
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As far as I know the NFPA doesn't prohibit fire pits. I did a quick search online and found this on a page of the NFPA site regarding public education of fire hazards:
Outdoor burning
Call the local fire department or municipality before outdoor or open air burning. This includes campfires, brush fires, fire pits, chimeneas, and outdoor fireplaces. You may not be permitted to do outdoor burning in some municipalities and during some seasons of the year. Closely attend all outdoor fires.
Avoid burning on windy, dry days. When conditions are windy or dry, it is too easy for open burning to spread out of control.
Gasoline or other flammable or combustible liquids should not be used to burn trash, brush, or other waste.
Use chimeneas, outdoor fireplaces, and fire pits outdoors only and at least 10 feet away from the home or anything that can burn.
http://www.nfpa.org
There may be some additional requirements regarding the construction of a fire pit and how far it needs to be located away from structures, but I suspect your local government added the total ban on their use.
Last week the local volunteer fire dept. distributed a paper explaining what could and could not be burnt. It included a paper from the EPA, according to this paper you can build a fire 5' high by 5' wide for ceremonial purpose. Using firewood only.
A smaller ceremony might require a smaller fire.
Good luck!!!!!
according to this paper you can build a fire 5' high by 5' wide for ceremonial purpose. Using firewood only.
So, necklaceing is a no-no.
Damn, saved all those old tires for nothing.
Joe H
See if http://bulk.resource.org/codes.gov/ has the information you are looking for.
You aren't the only one who feels that way about building codes...
Carl Malamud, who started the site believes that codes should be in the public domain and has posted them, inviting a lawsuit because he believes he will win...
I think he has had victories with similar things (making court cases available online, SEC filings, etc.)
IIRC there was a court ruling that if a code is made law, public has a right to see it. doesn't change having to pay for a copy tho, admin costs etc.
bobl Volo, non valeo
Baloney detecter WFR
"But when you're a kibbutzer and have no responsibility to decide the facts and apply the law, you can reach any conclusion you want because it doesn't matter." SHG
D*mn, that's nice
I hope he can keep it up.