Hiya,
I’m doing some restoration work on the windows in an old stable that’s been converted to offices. The sill extensions have rotted and the owner, The Audubon Center, wishes to retain the historical integrity of the building and use the original materials. Therefore, I am trying to locate: kiln dried oak, 2-3/8″ x 11″ x 8′ pieces.
Any ideas as to where I can find this material? I’m in NW Connecticut.
No luck at the local mills.
Thanks!
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Any reason why you can't laminate 2 pieces of 5/4 together?
A double thickness of 5/4 should get you right in the ballbark; probably a little on the heavy side.
Then you can just mill it to whatever you need.
You are correct Sir! I mentioned that but the boss-man won't have it. He wants authentic all the way. Kinda crazy since it'll be painted anyways!!!!!
OK
Since that won't work, maybe you can try Condon Lumber in White Plains, NY.
I personally haven't had any experience with them, but others I know have had good service from them.
And I agree with Sphere. White oak is the way to go.
Cool,
I'll call Condon Lumber tomorrow and see what they have. White Plains is only about an hour from me and it would be more fun to pick it up and see what else they have. Otherwise, I'll check the other places y'all recommend and see if they'll ship it.
BTW - This is a gratis/volunteer kind of thing so they appreciate the work and are not in a blazing rush. I enjoy helping out and have already got some leads on a few pay jobs! ;-)
Thanks
There is also a Condon's in Stormville, New York which should be closer to you. This is North of I-84 near Pawling. It's more of a distribution center but you can walk in and pick out your stuff by the piece.
That would be 10/4 and should be White oak, not red.
Try google for Bateman Bros. Lumber Co. Chalfont or New Britain Pa.
Ask for 10/4 x 12'' and wider..not 12" and under..shipping ought not be too bad.
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Repairs, Remodeling, Restorations.
...should be White oak, not red.
c'mon man...he said they wanted it 'authentic' - if it's rotted out, it isn't white oak...gotta get some of that authentic oak that will rot...
efix - check in here http://www.woodweb.com/cgi-bin/forums/sawdry.pl they are closer to this issue than this forum..."there's enough for everyone"
come to think of it, it is likely it was not Kiln dried either.A mill I worked at in Pa., Hunsberger's sawmill, did not kiln anything over 6/4 for some reason.
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Repairs, Remodeling, Restorations.
A mill I worked at in Pa., Hunsberger's sawmill, did not kiln anything over 6/4 for some reason.
Usually economics. 8/4 and thicker takes too long and ties up the kiln. Place I used to frequent for the cabinet shop actually decided to build an additional 8/4 kiln, figured it would pay for itself in a year. Then they went out of the lumber business.
PAHS Designer/Builder- Bury it!
Forgot to mention that for white oak, honeycombing is particularly problematic in a kiln. I'd sure prefer to use air dried.
Edited 11/18/2004 8:15 am ET by VaTom
The White Oak stocked at Condon's is kiln dried although I'm sure is you wanted air dried they could probably run it down for you (ask for Ray Wimpert). Their white oak comes:
OAK WHITE AD WHND (Worm Holes Allowed) ROUGH
Available 6"-16" wide x 8'-16' long
1" to 2" thick
OAK WHITE FAS KD
Available 6"-14" wide x 8'-16' long
1" to 2" thick D2S and 2-1/2" to 4" thick Rough
OAK WHITE RIFT & QUARTERED FAS KD
Available 4"-10" wide x 6'-16' long
1"-2" D2S
I have on rare occasion seen a little honeycombing (interior checking) in some of the KD white oak we have picked up but we have never really found it to be a problematic. Maybe the kiln the stuff is coming from is drying the thicker stuff more slowly, I don't know, but like I said we've never had a problem with it.
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Thanks, I'll keep that in mind. Lot'sa mills here, few kilns. I bought some KD 12/4 RO from Bateman's years ago for a stair job..it all came in at 17" wide!!!..and 16' long...damn stuff was heavy man. And, it was almost all clear..amazing.
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Repairs, Remodeling, Restorations.
"c'mon man...he said they wanted it 'authentic' - if it's rotted out, it isn't white oak...gotta get some of that authentic oak that will rot.."If he wants it authentic, then he will get some pre-rotted wood <G>.
I am in Builder Michigan Not much help so far, but my wife is a Landcsape Architect and when she needs to clear Land she calls a firm that will saw fresh lumber as it falls and sells it to some Ammish furniter builders. Call the Moble sawmill guys or bulk buyers of "green" lumber good chance you can get the goods cheeper thah you expect.
MICK
I suppose you couldn't have too many suppliers.
http://www.currentriverhardwoods.com
There's a lot of sawmills in the Mark Twain National Forest. It's the KD I don't know about.
Edited 11/17/2004 10:58 pm ET by FarmerDave
I agree with some of the other folks here:
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If the other sources don't work out, send me a note. A friend owns a company that cuts and kiln dries oak from Western North Carolina and supplies distributors around the world. Has some HUGE kilns. He'd sure know about boards cut that size.
Kind of far away, but it's a special project and they will have or will saw & dry what you need.
East Perry Lumber Co., Perryville, MO