hi all we recently moved out of town and are now heating with an oil boiler which ia am about to update at the same time i am going to can the electric hot water and was wondering wether to put the new hot water in as part of the boiler or to do a seperate propane unit(the propane is allready in the house) i was also wondering if there were any strong feelings on brands
thanks noah
oh yeah i am on the top of a hill in upstate newyork
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I live in the mountains of North Carolina and even though the pro's recomended propane I went with oil. It is much cheaper than gas in my area and the new boiler is excelant. I have one seventy gallon boiler that heats my radiant floor and is used for my domestic hot water. I have been more than happy with oil.
I always buy houses that have natural gas available, but in your case. . .
Go with hot water as part of the oil boiler. One less appliance to keep in tune and one less tank to get refilled. Also, oil has consistently been cheaper than propane. You're stuck with an oil tank anyway, why add a propane tank and loss the yard space and have to build a fence to hide it?
Even if you had propane for the cooktop (a valid approach for us avid cooks), I'd do oil for the hot water. The cooktop can run a long time on a 40-pound cylinder on the back porch. The HWH will need a 100- or 250-gallon tank refilled more aften.
Oil.........
Where upstate are you?
Eric
were just out side of syracuse and as to the other post i agree about keeping it all together
noah
Hi: I'm not a pro but I have done tons and tons of reading on the subject.I'm currently building my own house in CT.Personnaly I put in a Buderus brand oil fired boiler with a 79 gallon Buderus indirect water heater.(the bigger w/h is for my 100 gal whirlpool)This setup seems to be the most efficient for my area.There is a good book out called Consumer Guide to Home Energy Savings by Wilson.Thorne,Morrill,7th edition.I think I paid $7.00 used at Amozon.It explains in easy to understand reading why one H/W unit is better than the next, plus a lot of other great info.There is also a member here who is the author of another energy book and I'm sure he will give his help too.
I use oil for heat and hot water and propane for cooking, oil is less expensive in the mountains of Western Maryland. Have radient heat in floors and would go this way again.
Hey Birddog what type of radiant do you have Hydronic,slab,plates ,electric.I'm looking into the stadler viega system.Did you do it yourself?
Chef, I like to keep it simple. You are going to keep water hot the entire year, so why have two appliances, two sources of fuel stored, one unit that is used only seasonally, cold starts, aging fuel ( if oil used winter only)) etc.?
That brings it to a cost per Btu for your area, which you have already researched. I prefer nat gas, but that is not an option where you live.
You probably already have a small backup generator to provide the current you need to power pumps, blowers etc., in case of a grid failure.
The book referenced has a web site at aceee.org and lists boilers that meet the Energy Star efficiency requirements (AFUE of 85% min) as of 1997-98. Paul