Hi
I was disscusing with my neighbor the peeling paint on his house. He informed me that he was planning to re-side the weather side of his house because several painting contractors had told him that even if he were to completly strip,prime,caulk, fill and paint his siding, the paint would not hold up because the wood was old and dry.This theory is new to me. The house is about 75 years old, it has redwood siding and seems in little danger of petrifying any time soon.
Have I been blissfully ignorant all these years, or does siding get old, dry up and become unable to hold it’s paint like the rest of us.
Thanks,
Glendo.
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Glendo
I'm no expert in this area but am currious about the answer so I'm keeping it near the top.
Have I been blissfully ignorant all these years Cant really answer that, dont know you that well.
does siding get old Yes.
dry up and become unable to hold it's paint I'm sure that it does dry up but I've seen older houses than 75 years with good paint jobs.
I would think if the wood was in good shape than it can still be saved, just not sure what the proceedure is.
Doug
Well they really must be in trouble in Europe then,, some of those houses are 500 years old or older..
paint is less likely to peel off old wood then fresh green wood.. New wood has a lot of water in it.. as it dries it will hold paint better then new wood..
what is causing him to have his paint peel off is most likely moisture escaping from the house because of a variety of problems.. put some new plastic siding on and the house will likely develope mold...
"put some new plastic siding on and the the house will likely develope mold".......
Ahh.....Ha Ha!
Jeff
Buck Construction Pittsburgh,PA
Fine Carpentery.....While U Waite
Sorry Jeff,
I was taking a typing short cut to get to my point.. what I should have said was that if you do a typical plastic siding over wood, what is often done around here is to put up a layer of foam insulation wrapped in tyvex or some other building wrap. Then with a little carelessnes on the part of the siding installer they have the perfect trap for moisture.. the built up moisture will cause mold..
The main point was that there is nothing wrong with old wood that cannot be fixed.
Gotcha the first time, anyone trying to type with my fingers would try to be concise also.
Thanks,
Glendo.
"the paint would not hold up because the wood was old and dry" .......... nonsense. I've painted/stained houses and barns in New England that were 100, 150, and 200 years old; paint jobs that held up fine. Your neighbor has some problems to be sure; with out more info I wouldn't hazard a guess. imho, it would be a real shame to cover up some nice old redwood with vinyl siding.
Thanks for your replies. The house is in San Diego, Ca. and so I don't think moisture is a problem. It gets lots of sunshine, which is hard on paint but doesn't in itself cause adhesion problems. It sounds to me like the logic of siding salesmen.
Any other opinions?
Glendo.
You didn't say whether paint was peeling or not.
Is it peeling ? If so, is it peeling all the way down to the wood ?
If it is not peeling down to the wood, (and that in large patches), but it is peeling in the upper layers, then it was a bad prep job the last time, or it was painted while moist, dirty, etc.
If it is peeling down to the wood, in large patches, then the wood is getting wet from some source. Regardless of where the house is located. Most likey from the inside...
If it is not peeling at all, but simply time to repaint, then your assessment is spot on. It is the logic of a siding salesman. To say that the wood is too old to hold paint is as laughable as to say that plants are green because little elves paint them that color.
If old dry wood will not hold paint, then neither will metal. After all, it is "dry" as well...
Old dry wood is as ideal a surface to paint, as anything else on the planet is ! The statement is ridiculous on the face of it. All the rest of the argument thereafter is moot.
Your neighbor should save the cost of residing, and just pay extra for a very good company to prep the house properly, then paint it properly.
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If your neighbor does reside have him make sure the new siding is backprimed this time, sounds like it isn't now. A good paint job is 75% preparation any body can slap on paint but even the best paint is worthless without preparation. Redwood should be primed with an oil base primer that will soak into the oily wood then you can use latex top coats. Remember "Oats that have been through the horse are cheaper than oats that haven't."
Thanks for all the input.It's greatly appreciated. Sorry to learn about the elves though.
Cheerz,
Glendo.
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I think the newer term would be Vinyl Man.
Glendo.
PS Have we found a replacement for snake-oil yet?
I think the newer term would be Vinyl Man.
Glendo
It may be called vinyl but it still is as ugly to me...spose everything still has its place.
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