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   Tedfrd | Sep 26, 1999 10:36pm | #8

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   This is the kind of sub I can never decide what to do with:

   Either I take him around and show him all his/her booboos and then backcharge the bejeebers out of him for all the repair work,

   OR

   Pay him in full, finish the job myself, NEVER use him again and then highly recommend him to the contractors I don't like.

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   Guest_ | Sep 26, 1999 10:36pm | #9

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   Just a quick question....without boring you all with the details of a wallpaper job arrangement, suffice it to say that all the walls were done, and the wallpaper hanger wasn't happy with the results, so he's redoing one wall. He claims the wall wasn't prepped properly (by me), but he'll redo it for free & pay for the additional paper needed.

   The wall (actually all of them) were taped, sanded, and sealed with 2 coats of oil-based paint (Zinzer 1-2-3, I think), followed by a coat of primer/sizing. Then the (unpasted) paper went up.

   I'm re-prepping the wall so he can re-do the wall (don't get me started on all the extra work this has caused). When he pulled the paper down on the wall he wasnt' happy with, he left some residiual paste on the walls. I'm trying to get it all off (using some Dif stripper diluted in warm water), but the sizing seems to be coming off to if I scrub too aggressively.

   My question is this: Do I need to strip off all the sizing and glue using full strength stripper? Or can I just get enough off so the surface is smooth. I plan to re-prime it with 2 more coats of the 1-2-3 oil-based primer, followed by another coat of primer/sizing.

   Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated, as I'm trying to finish this up quickly so I can get this guy back to finally finish the job.

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   Guest_ | Sep 26, 1999 08:41am | #1

   *Aw c'mon....I just need a quick bit of advice....I'd like to get this over with tomorrow.

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   Guest_ | Sep 26, 1999 09:02am | #2

   *I think if the surface feels smooth, then you've got it. I don't know why you need two more coats of primer and then another coat of sizing. If the original two coats of primer still look sound and the wall feels smooth, put on sizing and hang the paper.What exactly did the hanger see that made him unhappy?Rich Beckman

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   Guest_ | Sep 26, 1999 10:18am | #3

   *Dear Per Swede,Please accept my humble offering,If something seems to difficult it is! I'll bet you know what is wrong here. Please write down what your intuition tells you is wrong with this job. What was wrong with the paper that was taken down? I take down paper fairly often and fix the rock as necessary before painting.Joe

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   Guest_ | Sep 26, 1999 05:28pm | #4

   *The reason the sizing is coming off with the stripper is because sizing is basically thinned down paste. In fact that is what some hangers use. As to the rest, without knowing why he's unhappy it's hard to give advice, but around here we give them a smooth wall with primed with a coat of flat oil primer and let them worry about the sizing. Maybe the Zinsser 123 has to much sheen and is causing him trouble. Zinsser makes a primer called "Shieldz Pre-Wallcovering Primer" which might be better. Primarily the job of the primer is to make the paper easier to strip, without tearing up the drywall as is sizing so you shouldn't need both. But if it does let the hanger worry about the sizing to make sure it is compatible with his paste. Sorry this was long but hope it helps.Barry

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   Guest_ | Sep 26, 1999 07:24pm | #5

   *Thanks for the feedback. To answer some of the questions: the hanger was unhappy with the appearance of the wall because there were streaks on it which were visible when he was done. It is very light colored paper. He said it was because the wall finish (primer) wasn't uniform. He also said there was an uneven spot on the wall. In order to avoid a pissing contest, I told him I would refinish the wall. In reality, the wall was not noticeably uneven, and the wall was completely evenly painted. He streaked the paper because his hands were dirty when he started. Anyway, I just want to reprime the wall so I can get this paper hung.My instinct is that the wall is now smooth enough, and I should just paint over any thin layer of remaining sizing. I'm just not sure if painting over this sizing will cause a problem with adhesion in the long run.

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   Mad_Dog | Sep 26, 1999 08:26pm | #6

   *Per:I bet you can't wait to get him outta there.Dog

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   Guest_ | Sep 26, 1999 08:45pm | #7

   *Did I mention the fact that he slashed all of the newly installed (and freshly painted) trim & molding with his razor as he was fitting the paper around the windows & doors? Or that he dumped so much paste down the newly installed sink that it clogged the drain line so badly, I had to disassemble it, snake it, and finally do 3 Liquid Plumber jobs on it before it cleared?