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   Piffin | Jan 22, 2003 03:49am | #1

   Sometimes. Technically, no. But I have done it plenty of times with no problems.

   Concerns would be;

   sticking the floor in place and disallowing it the freedom of movement.

   driving a screw or nail into radiant heating tubes set in the floor.

   Ever wanna take it up again?

   .

   Excellence is its own reward!

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   locallabor | Jan 22, 2003 03:59am | #2

   would the other option be to cut out the flooring that would wind up under the sole. if so is there a particular method of doing this? thanks.

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   xMikeSmith | Jan 22, 2003 04:01am | #3

   absolutely.. 1st , there ain't no stinkin radiant tubes in the floor anyways, so don't listen to pif..

   2d... in three years when your wife changes her mind again, just take the partition out and the floor is still there .... intact... fill the nail holes and refinish it

   but hey , whadda i no ?

   Mike Smith   Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore

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   Piffin | Jan 22, 2003 04:19am | #4

   Mike's feeling flamboyant tonight, don't let him near any power tools and hide the car keys!

   LOL

   Cut it out if you want but I would use a couple spots of glue and a couple screws long enough to avoid going all the way through the subfloor for the bottom plate.

   I once did this to build a closet that I knew would be taken out the next year. I put down a strip of resin paper first to cover the whole floor. then I used two two inch screws for each bottom plate. Then I framed the wall and set it in, did the sheet rock, baseboard and paint.

   Then I used a sharp utility knife to cut the paper out and had no paint on the floor. When we demoed the floor the next year, all I had to do was back the screws out and used coloured wax to fill the holes. The signs of it's existence disappeared.

   Same with ceiling, a little spackle in holes and good bye folks. Used prepainted bedmold to cap the wall to the ceiling.

   Mike, you want a ride home tonight?.

   Excellence is its own reward!

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   UncleDunc | Jan 22, 2003 04:58am | #5

   What kind of pervert would remove a closet? Is that even legal in the US?

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   Piffin | Jan 22, 2003 05:30am | #7

   Picture this - you just rented a water side cottage for seven grand a month for two months. Nice big old place but the master bedroom has no closet and the owners don't want one put in. Your wife will make you miserable all summer if she has no place to hang her evening gowns and slacks. She has too many for one of those big pieces of furniture that start with an A (I'm having a brain fart).

   So you ask a guy with a reputation for working miracles if he can solve the problem. Two days of work for two men for two thousand = disposable contentment.

   Best part of that job is that the two doors from that closet are part of my house now!

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   Excellence is its own reward!

   Edited 1/21/2003 9:33:00 PM ET by piffin

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   UncleDunc | Jan 22, 2003 05:43am | #9

   Amazing. I've never had to deal with customers who had more money than good sense. I'm not sure I'd like it.

   Armoire.

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   xMikeSmith | Jan 22, 2003 05:49am | #10

   who u kiddin ?... you'd love itMike Smith   Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore

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   xMikeSmith | Jan 22, 2003 05:00am | #6

   i'm home already... it must be the curry !Mike Smith   Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore

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   Piffin | Jan 22, 2003 05:31am | #8

   Curry!

   You need a ride to the bathroom?

   LOL.

   Excellence is its own reward!

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   locallabor | Jan 22, 2003 06:12am | #11

   thanks for alll your comments

   so no cutting of the floor(life is good) and a few screws+lil glue. why wouldnt you want the screws to go all the way through the sub? 3'' screws?(1.5'' sole,.75'' hardwood,.75''sub) why not nails?

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   Piffin | Jan 22, 2003 06:19am | #12

   Too often these old houses have wiring, plumbing, old gas lines, new radiant floor hydronics, etc crammed into places where ...

   Nails can spliter the back side out of the subfloor and throw splinters into stuff too but two main reasons for screws is if you might ever want to remove them, it's easier than nails and you can controll how deep you drive them easier. Also, I use a lot of screws for remoideling because I don't ratle the walls around and knock the plaster off in the next room. Or with Sheet rock, sometimes a nail pop is just waiting to say howdy..

   Excellence is its own reward!

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   locallabor | Jan 22, 2003 06:25am | #13

   good advise, thanks for sharing it

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   BossHog | Jan 22, 2003 04:27pm | #14

   " then I used two two inch screws for each bottom plate. "

   Would those be drywall screws ???.............(-:

   BTW - The "A" word you were lookin' for is "armoire" - That's french for "fancy word for a simple cabinet"Practice safe sex. Go screw yourself.

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   Piffin | Jan 22, 2003 11:12pm | #15

   Thanks for the amoire.

   I'll assume you didn't pick that last tag line just for me.

   8<0).

   Excellence is its own reward!

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   BossHog | Jan 22, 2003 11:32pm | #17

   "I'll assume you didn't pick that last tag line just for me. "

   I just throught the "screw" part fit in nicely with the thread...............(-:You are such a good friend that if we were on a sinking ship and there was only one life jacket....I'd miss you a lot and think of you often.

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   locallabor | Jan 23, 2003 03:12am | #18

   when are 3'' drywall screws used for drywall application? they are too long!

   what type of screws to the sole?

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   Piffin | Jan 23, 2003 03:21am | #19

   We've had this old thing around here about screwing around with drywall screws - forget it. Too long a story.

   I use GRK Reisser screws with torx bit heads. Use a structural screw. deck screw..

   Excellence is its own reward!

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   xMikeSmith | Jan 23, 2003 06:19am | #21

   hey, i use the same screw.....it was like pulling teeth trying to get them , thoughMike Smith   Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore

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   Wateren | Jan 22, 2003 11:27pm | #16

   Local:

   Coming in late here, but I have seen what looked like this on original construction circa 1936.

   Red oak floor, 2" wide strips. For some reason I took baseboard off in one place (I think it was a nonbearing wall on the second floor) and saw the flooring extending unbroken under the wall coming out the other side. Seemed unusual, but what do I know? Maybe the flooring guy got there first that day. Maybe easier to lay the whole thing rather than cut-&-create around all those fiddley walls.

   Good luck,

   Chris

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   r_ignacki | Jan 23, 2003 03:51am | #20

   don't forget that.... if...... you do nail the wall to the floor........... and the floor squeeked beforehand......... now the wall is gonna squeek.   (g)