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PermaCast Columns

CAGIV | Posted in Construction Techniques on March 31, 2006 10:58am

Has any one used them?

http://www.hbgcolumns.com/notaper.html

May be using them for a Pergola and would appreciate any feedback or experience with similiar products

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    McDesign | Mar 31, 2006 11:33pm | #1

    I like and use fiberglas columns from http://www.dixie-pacific.com.  I prefer the Tuscan capital and plinth, personally myself.  You can split them with a circ saw, and re-glue them easily with PL and strapping tape, or they'll take lots of vertical load.  On a pergola, I would worry about the bending moment.  I would set a 4x4 in concrete below grade, and slip / split the column around it.

    The (9) columns on the side of the house below are 8" x 8' round, no fluting.  Don't get non-tapered, though - a column IS tapered - if it's straight it's just a post!  Can you say entasis? 

    These columns with base and capital were about $150.00 each, I believe.

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      McDesign | Mar 31, 2006 11:56pm | #2

      Oh yeah - and this is the little bitty old house I put the porch monster behind -

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      1. CAGIV | Apr 01, 2006 09:54am | #3

        The permacast brand I was looking at, many because that is what my yard can order, sound similiar, I won't need to split them,  I was planning on setting them in CC and slipping them over the top, Ironic you mentioned Tuscan capital and base as that is the style I was planning on using.

        The PermaCast come out to just under 200 each including cap and base for an 8x8x8'

  2. MVAgusta | Apr 01, 2006 12:51pm | #4

    If you need to attach a handrail to them, a good trick is taking a PT 2x6 and planing it to fit inside. Glue it in with PL and you've got a much better material to hold a nail or screw than the brittle, chippy fiberglass.

  3. BillW | Apr 01, 2006 01:00pm | #5

    I used Chadsworths (http://www.columns.com).  Excellent product, excellent customer service.

    What do you mean when you say you are going to install them in "CC"?

    1. CAGIV | Apr 02, 2006 12:22am | #8

      CC, concrete.

      We will set 6x6 PT posts into concrete footings to give the structure stability and strength

      1. wrudiger | Apr 02, 2006 05:32am | #9

        I have two of the fiberglass columns in my house, in earthquake land.  They are holding up a structural paralam beam, and the engineer signed off on this attachment method for sheer:  angle brackets bolted to the post and lagged into the beam;  4 in the base and 2 at the top.  My GC was very impressed with the columns - this was the first time that he'd used them. 

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    Matt | Apr 01, 2006 06:21pm | #6

    I'm about 95% sure those are the ones I used on my own house.  Somewhat heavy - the ones I used were 10" x 10' with a slight taper and it took 3 of us to get them up there.  The painters painted them with oil paint and they have held up rather well for 6 years.  No complaints.  Much preferable to wood.  They "feel" quite solid.  You can cut them to length with a circular saw.  It's a little like cutting fiber cement siding.

  5. andybuildz | Apr 01, 2006 08:27pm | #7

    I installed over a dozen of them on a house near here. They're heavy but I installed them all myself. Be careful though...I let one end get away from me and it barely touched the ground and smashed anyway. They're strong yet fragile. Easy to cut.

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