pneu. stapler for underlayment and wc sh
I have to lay down some underlayment(1/4″ luan) over my old strip flooring in prep for new floor. I’m also residing the house with w.c shingles. Any opinions on whether a pneumatic stapler would be a good tool for both of these jobs? If so what type, narrow or wide crown? I’d spring for stainless staples if the tool is appropriate for the shingles, of course. Thanks in advance.
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Around here the roofers use a standard construction stapler (7/16" crown?) with very low pressure on cedar shingles. Of course the staples litterally fall off the roof in 25 years, but that just makes reroofing easier!
I like the idea of stainless staples, especially if they are placed in the right places to begin with.
Happy roofing,
Don
Beer was created so carpenters wouldn't rule the world.
Thanks Idaho, I was hoping to hear that. Sidewall shingles though, not roof, so they should hold up a little longer.
Don't use luan, use specific flooring underlayment. Vinyl manufacturers won't warranty their product if luan is under it. So I'd assume it would also be unsuitable for other flooring products.
If you want to use a stapler, narrow crown is the one for flooring underlayment. But one problem I found is that you can get popping noises. My guess as to what's causing it is a fractional space between the underlayment and the strip floor in areas. When you happen to step in that area, the underlayment depresses slightly and moves on the resin coated staple.
With screws you won't have that problem since they'll pull the underlayment down tight to the previous floor. Of course this all assumes that your previous floor isn't noisy.
You could use some kind of thinset to bed the underlayment, then staple it. If your previous floor is quiet, you'll still have a quiet one when you're done with the underlayment. Others have posted on bedding or gluing down underlayment, you might do a search on it. There's a fair number of postings on floor prep and underlayment.
Thanks for the info on the luan. I'm puttying down wood, not vinyl but I'll check to see if thats a problem.
Don't buy the porter cable MS 200 16 gage. It is junk. The nose broke right off after short use. Stainless staples ar expensive, and could be hard to get locally.
Building code here requires carpenters glue under the U-lay when placing it. Then screw or staple as required by the builder. (Staple for lino; screw for ceramic tile)
locolobo
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
>> Building code here requires carpenters glue under the U-lay when placing it.<< I'm surprised that they have a requirement for such a thing as it has nothing to do with safety, health, structural integrity & longevity, energy efficiency, weatherproof-ness (is that a word), etc... So, what, is your building code about a thousand pages long? Just curious. I mean squeeky floors are a bummer but do they need to be government regulated? Maybe I'm missing something here...
<<So, what, is your building code about a thousand pages long?>>
Including amendments... about that; yup.
I live in a country with rules and regulations up the ying-yang.
I am a "master electrician" in British Columbia... do ya think I can get it reciprocated here in Alberta??? Not on your life!! I gotta wait for 4 years and then go through the whole load of **** again, even though it's the same country. It seems that in Alberta, you gotta be a J-man for 4 years in this province before you can even apply to write for your masters here. Talk about bureaucratic nonsense!!!
B.C. is not any better. In order to work in the electrical trade in BC, you gotta be holding a "silver card" from the Department of Safety Services before you are allowed to get a job. In order to get this card, you have to be able to prove that you have been working in the trade in this province for at least a month.
"CATCH-22" situation. In order to work legally, you have to prove that you worked illegally. And the person that employed you would be subject to sanctions.
And get this.... NOW they are crying about the lack of qualified tradesmen in the province!!! Construction costs for the 2010 Olympics are going through the roof due to the lack of construction personnel. It seems that the paper pushers there thought that the facilities would be built by shuffling papers from one desk to another.
Whaddaya do??
locolobo
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Jeeze!... These bureaucrats think they are protecting the interests of consumers and gaining their own cause additional funding, but in some cases they are just driving the price of housing up with no tangible result for the home buyer.