Preassembly of cornerboard trim is Basic Exterior Trim 101, but would pocket screwing from the backside be a little anal?
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I think it's a great Idea..wish I had thunk of it first.
Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
I'll just do it>
Yes, that is anal. Anal is okay though.
How do you intend of fastening the assembly to the corner....are you going to use exposed fasteners? If so, then the pocket screw idea is not only anal, but silly.
It's also okay to be silly.
blue
Warning! Be cautious when taking any framing advice from me. Although I have a lifetime of framing experience, all of it is considered bottom of the barrel by Gabe. I am not to be counted amongst the worst of the worst. If you want real framing information...don't listen to me..just ask Gabe!
yes it would...
no dis here..but, REALLY?Fewer exposed fasteners is a plus..I think.Holding power of a screw vs. a face nail?Maybe the possibilty of a mitered CB vs. a butt joint? ( which I know is almost impossible to keep closed with nails, the miter that is)..
or has this head cold warped my logic all to hell?might be a good thread..no matter what I think.
Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
I'll just do it>
sphere .. where u been
u no i hate miters on exterior trim...
and we're gona use SS nails on our cornre bboardsMike Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
Maybe the possibilty of a mitered CB
Where are the threads going to bite in a mitered joint?I'm sorry, I thought you wanted it done the right way.
OK..I recant..i have a cold..not firing on both cylinders.sounded good till ya said that to me..orryMIKE..Considr yur self bit..I fubared. XXXXOOOO Duane.
Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
I'll just do it>
Thank you for the sanity check.
Our daughter and her husband were with us for the holidays, and she likes to make things in the wood shop. Making up knickknack boxes and jewelwry boxes from all the scrap in the wood pile (including rosewood and wenge), we tried to use every tool and jig in the shop.
Having to do a siding and trim job starting tomorrow morning, I got carried away by my "Knots" experience in recent days, trying to get outside the box.
Edited 1/2/2005 1:33 pm ET by Gene Davis
Don't think ur nuts at all.
That's something an apprentice can get to work on, at least the drilling part.
I hate seeing the CB's open up, and it seems they often do.
AZEK makes CB's you know?? They're a bit shy of 5/4 though, I don't know why they did that.
EricI Love A Hand That Meets My Own,
With A Hold That Causes Some Sensation.
It really depends on the level of finish you're going for. For simple 1x3 + 1x4 corners I would square the edge of the 1x3 and then shoot the corner together with stainless finish nails and guerrilla glue. Lately I've done some huge corners out of 2x12 WRC and used biscuits in addition to the glue. My only concern about the pocket screws is that they're not really exterior screws, at least the ones I have are black phosphate and will rust eventually. Then again, beech biscuits are not really exterior either... so here's hoping that a thorough coating of guerrilla is going to keep them dry.
From the Kreg site, here is some sort of indication that pocket screws are available for exterior applications.
nope...
be anal....
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming
WOW!!! What a Ride!
or.....
yup....
but still be anal...
anal is good....
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming
WOW!!! What a Ride!
Anal is good, and so is the idea. I believe McFeeleys carries ext. grade pocket screws, although I'm not sure. It's probably more than I would do, however, but if the client okays the added expense, why not? I have preassembled cornerboards before and the only problem I have found is out of square corners tend to open them up if nailed tight to the sheathing.
Out of square corners?
Good grief...what will we seen next?
blueWarning! Be cautious when taking any framing advice from me. Although I have a lifetime of framing experience, all of it is considered bottom of the barrel by Gabe. I am not to be counted amongst the worst of the worst. If you want real framing information...don't listen to me..just ask Gabe!
wedges
It's not unusual to have corners that have gone out of kilter on older structures, some quite badly due to poor foundation work and significant settling. Worked a kitchen renovation last year where the floor was out of level by 2.5" over 8 feet, the lowest dip in the corner, which caused the wall corner to skew out of plum and square. Just one of the many joys of renovation work : )
I never met a tool I didn't like!
i do assume everyone pre-builds their corners , right ?
since we use a lot of GP PrimeTrim, we pre-drill and put them together with SS ringshank nails
if it were redwood or red ce3dar corners , we'd use our siding gun to assemble them, again with SS ringshnks
i can't see where there is ANY gain in using pocket screws for corner boardsMike Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
ya missed my post?
hidden fastners, tighter joint?does a RS SS "suck it up" as tite? as a driven screw? Hold as well with exp/con as a screw?C'mon Mike..it's 2005..LOL
Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
I'll just do it>
it's a fukkin corner board , mon !
yas , boss.... it be sucked up real titeMike Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
Who say's you have to use actual "pocket" screws? If you're concerned about screws holding up to the weather why not just use a proper size decking/stainless/galvanized screw? I've used "regular" screws in a pocket hole a few times in a pinch and they seem to serve the same purpose.