I’m painting some luan doors in my house. It looks like the previous owner stained them a dark brown. It dosen’t appear to have a clear coating. I tried painting it with water based enamel and it bled through PINK ! 3 coats of paint later still PINK ! 2 Coats of primer later STILL PINK ! Should I shellac or Polyurethane the remaining doors before painting? Can the pink door be saved?
Thanks, tiarahi
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Zinser BIN (heavy shellac)
or original Kilz (I think it's lacquer based)
Check the can directions to see which is compatible with what you are painting over (poly, varnish, lacquer, shellac, something else?).
If the original surfaces are glossy, make sure to scuff them up with some fine sandpaper (220 grit should do the trick).
"Let's get crack-a-lackin" --- Adam Carolla
or original Kilz (I think it's lacquer based)
oil.
Tim
A degreasing with super clean and a oil primer coat would have been clear sailing .
You screwed the pooch with the latex. You deserve it . Read the cans next time at least.
Tim
You screwed the pooch with the latex. You deserve it . Read the cans next time at least.
"screwed the pooch"? Is this an expression? It's not quite clicking for me.
As for reading the cans... of course they always say that the surface to be painted should be clean and free of foreign materials, but sometimes it's hard to know whether or not the previous finish (if you even notice that it has one) will react with the paint or not.
-Don
I can understand the first time and he even tried primer , but he tried latex primer. and kept coating it .
"I'm painting some luan doors in my house. It looks like the previous owner stained them a dark brown. It dosen't appear to have a clear coating. I tried painting it with water based enamel and it bled through PINK ! 3 coats of paint later still PINK ! 2 Coats of primer later STILL PINK ! Should I shellac or Polyurethane the remaining doors before painting? Can the pink door be saved?"
I guess we all have to get our experience.
Tim
Screwed the pooch.
DonCanDo age is listed as 'over the next hill' but I've heard that expression all my life.
Can't just be regional cause we're a thousand miles apart.
seeyou invented screwing the pooch
'Nemo me impune lacesset'No one will provoke me with impunity
Edited 4/21/2006 10:13 am ET by razzman
Actually, I never heard the expression "over the next hill" either. It just sorta made sense as I was filling in my age.
As for "screwed the pooch", I just finished googling it and sure enough, it's a common expression and makes perfect sense in the context it was used.
So, you live, you learn, you repeat.
-Don
How many have you pooched? I'd strip the bad ones and SPRAY a coat of Zinnser's Seal-Cote. It is Shellac. Spraying will not 'pull' up the old finish as badly as brushing.
Then you can put on whatever floats your boat.
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You gotta be kidding me ..Jorge is @ what %? Now?
I'd just paint em pink and have a drink.
yup..
Kiltz or Bin 123 in oil base...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming
WOW!!! What a Ride!
Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
I've used 123 in latex with no problem. I've also used SW bond and seal, that works good too.
Headstong, I'll take on anyone!
each has it's place...
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Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
you are using a cheap paint. try #314 from benjamin moore (Satin Impervo Latex) Cheap paint doesnt dry as thick and with time the pink color will bleed through. You need something that dries thick and has a better grade of titanium dioxide so the color will "hold" with time....
you are using a cheap paint. try #314 from benjamin moore (Satin Impervo Latex) Cheap paint doesnt dry as thick and with time the pink color will bleed through. You need something that dries thick and has a better grade of titanium dioxide so the color will "hold" with time....
He already used 3 coats of paint and 2 coats of primer. I don't think thickness is the issue. Whatever stain is on the door is water-soluble and will bleed through ANY latex paint regardless of quality.
-Don
And isn't it Ti oxide, not Ti dioxide? I forget most of my paint chemistry but dioxide just don't sound familiar.
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Hey Sphere,
I'm pretty sure it is Titanium dioxide. Seems a lot of references to it just call it titanium oxide, but it's actually titanium dioxide.
Pretty sure anyway.
"Let's get crack-a-lackin" --- Adam Carolla
I just think of hot female lifeguards with white noses at the shore when I hear those words.
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Stroke, stroke . . . .
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"Let's get crack-a-lackin" --- Adam Carolla
Thats what I'm talkin about! geeze, I ain't seen the ocean in 5 yrs. Gotta fix that this yr.
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You are right, definitely titanium dioxide, TiO2.
Thanks to everyone! You have given me some good ideas. The best was paint em pink and have a drink!.......Gotta stay away from this painting stuff !!