Be ashamed….
You know prospective clients read these boards, all of you that participate in this name calling, slander, ect help perpetuate the tarnished image of the construction industry. Grow up your not in high school anymore.
Just walk away.
And here I am looking for some advice.
j.
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Well. I'm guessing you are probably Larry, but in case your not
Why don't you post your identity before you come in here making comments on how and what happens here, Posting as a guest doesn't impress me.
The name does say "Breaktime". That's an apt name for what it is - a place for some of the finest contractors in the country to take a break, talk shop, trade ideas, etc. There are times when you may wade through some juvenile behaviour, but if you do, you will NOT find a better plave for advice on the internet, or the real world, IMHO.
I don't condone the boorish behaviour, but this baby's too important to be thrown out with the water.
If everything seems to be going well, you've obviously overlooked something.
That was your first post . You probably have all of 20 minutes knowledge of these boards. I think if I were you , I would learn a little bit before casting judgement. You are liable to hear anything from us in the tavern. But , Ill tell you what since you wanted advice why dont you put us to your own test ? Ask the question or questions.
You know a coon dog dont look like much when hes sleepin on the front porch , but hes a different animal when hes after a ring tail. Maybe you better wake us up , and get us on a trail. WE also get bored and talk about politics and stuff , but dont judge us on our sleep and boredom.
One more thing . I dont usually come into a strangers house and criticize the wall paper.
Another thing . We will know soon enough if you are runnin trash. Larry.
Tim Mooney
Edited 3/6/2003 12:03:24 AM ET by Tim Mooney
j.,
You will probably get advice that would be a lot more useful if you could give us some idea what it is you want advice about.
Anything you could do to narrow it down a bit would really increase the utility of what is offered.
As it is, the best advice I can give you is:
Never allow yourself to be without reading material.
and
Alway seal the attic floor.
Of course, that may be the best advice I can give you regardess of whatever topic you may ask advice on!
Another day, another tool.
Rich, You forgot to mention that water flows downhill and stink always rises to the top.
Excellence is its own reward!
Rich is right twice today. Ubiquitious Goat Head & never get caught without a book.
Joe H
"Rich is right twice today."
Glad I didn't see this until AFTER the sun rose in the east. Would've been an anxious night.
Rich Beckman
Another day, another tool.
My advice would be to ask the question before criticising the hosts instead of the other way around.
There happens to be some foolish person here stirring things up right now but we can deal with it.
the thread where I am being called names is an offshoot of that and the context would be too hard to explain. It goes back a couple years and yoiu basically walked into the Tavern just in time to hear what sounded like a bad thing even tho it is fine. Ever see the movie, Rocky, where he challenged Appollo to take his best shot?
Rocky and Appollo ened up the best of friends.
Excellence is its own reward!
It's a duel poster.Whale Oil Beef Hooked!
Where does this guy off calling us "professionals"? I may be a wood whore, but I'm only semi-professional at best. You don't think he thought this is a wrestling thread, do ya? EliphIno!
bb, I,m at a loss. You were one of my heroes, and now you make such a public confession!
"It's a duel poster."
Are you sure it isn't a dueling poster
or maybe a posting duelist
or a post dealing dueler
no
you're right
it's a do all poster
dowah, dowah!.
Excellence is its own reward!
Yea what you said.Whale Oil Beef Hooked!
It's not "Slander", It's "Libel".
If there is anything you want to know about, just ask. Someone here will have the experience to help you.
WAHD
Be ashamed....
You're not allowed in here anymore...go over to JLC where they are menches.
CAG.....he's Larry? ROFLOOOO.....he spells too well and the letters are normal size. Maybe he has his older brother typing for him LOL.
Be banned
a
"As long as you have certain desires about how it ought to be you can't see how it is."
http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
Banned? Did somebody say banned?
Com'on now this (guy) is obviously a 13yr old.....makinsawdust
Again the guys and gals here have been great! They have prayed/meditated etc. when our youngest was sick with RSV. The gang here barely knew us then. They have helped us with business advice, family advice etc. One of the most unique boards around. Sorry if you feel that they are a bunch of deliquents. To me they are a great bunch. Sure they can get out of hand once in a while, but if you don't like it get out. Try another day. Tamara
rez....roflooooo no way was he in the band more like from cripple creek....lol
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Be Rick Danko
Namaste
andy"As long as you have certain desires about how it ought to be you can't see how it is." http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
Best rock band ever...but Danko is dead. (or is that your point?)
I wouldn't want to be Rick Danko, 'Ee's Daid!
Be alive
Dave
Andy, I just picked up "The Last Waltz" on DVD - but I can't watch it yet! Waiting for the good surround sound system, post-income tax refund... another month...
Of course, by then I can also (hopefully!) open up the windows and really crank the volume. :)
That's probably why most of us went into a profession that is more focussed on results than style points. Sorry if we didn't meet your standards of decorum.
I'm guessing he's Canadian eh.
I'm relatively new here, and have already recieved valuable answers to my questions by some of those that have been involved in this, and respect the knowledge each carries.
Regardless, althou rather terse, he/she may have a point, there are many new people whom have not been following the discussions or like myself may not grasp the history here. I have also reffered clients as it is a great searchable source of real life knowledge and ideas, but this infighting is not good for anyone.
I may be showing my ignorance here, but is it possible to put this to rest? Or at the very least contain it, even if we dont like it image is important, and this is a very public board.
Cheers.
Ya, the tavern needs to go to the bottom of the board.
CDN,
There are alot of great sites to send your clients to. This may not be one of them.
WAHDView Image
Guess I've always tried to determine the "lay of the land" before I started critiquing something.
This is a unique forum. There are only three like it, where the people treat you like people and not idjits.
As has been said, the Tavern is for miscellaneous discussions.
If you look at the folders you'll see misplaced posts. That happens. Like life, things happen.
bobl Volo Non Voleo Joe's BT Forum cheat sheet
nah.... screw 'em...
8" of new snow and two more projected for the next two weeks.. i think the banter has just begun..
sure beats takin it out on our familiesMike Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
I may be showing my ignorance here
Yes you did, now sit quietly in the corner for a year or two and maybe you too will learn from this group of delinquents I call my brothers and sisters.
Gabe
Gabe,
who you callin sister?
Sorry, prospective clients, just bull #### with the fellas..........
Some of us are still in triple A billy. Nothing to worry about, we'll get called up soon as a couple of the old guys croak.
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Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.
http://www.quittintime.com/
The current problem is a result of putting it to rest one to many times. The thing we have here is a true online community. We have a lot of love and respect for each other. And if you stay around you will be accepted too. The problem with the current situation is the problem child can't accept that there are certain rules of decency that must be followed in order to get along and help the community grow and prosper. And when everyone gets tired of his antics he throws a fit instead of fixing it or moving along to somewhere more suitable to his needs. He doesn't adapt and can't accept that. So he throws his tantrums, threatens people, threatens to sue the forum owner, and so on. He wants to destroy everything that is good here out of frustration because he can't cope. And everytime it gets heated up the general consensous is that if we should leave him alone, he will go away and calm down and everything will be alright. Like clock work,he comes back and it starts all over again. So after a period of a year or so this has been festering off and on and it's finaly come to a head. Would you let a guest who becomes obnoxious stay in your house? Would you go out on the porch and wait until he left?
By all means this is Tauntons house, but the posters and and visitors here make up the family that live in the house.
Everyone agree?Whale Oil Beef Hooked!
Well said, I now see the "community" and the passion associated to it and ones chosen field.
I am continually amazed by the wealth of information and stories on breaktime, and now the community. But we are all new to it at one point here, and we might have something of value to contribute as well, even if it may be a question for you seasoned ones to bicker about and offer solutions. Had I started reading breaktime a couple weeks later than I did, I might have well have dismissed you all.
I just go to my corner now.
Cheers
You think this is bad? You should have lived through the venting wars. Now that ws rough. LOLWhale Oil Beef Hooked!
Very well said ! I did as I was supposed to for a long time and said nothing in those posts because it was advised we not talk to him . It didnt help one bit . I was very civil when I did respond this time as I should always be , but I got to say what was on my mind ." Its went on long enough. " Thats what the President said tonight . I agree in this case . Hes had a year that I know of and it hasnt changed. Its still all about him . Good post , I couldnt have said it any better .
Tim Mooney
By all means this is Tauntons house, but the posters and and visitors here make up the family that live in the house
Gunner I didnt know ya cared but since your all sensitive now how about the buck ya owe me ya been hosing me for about a year for that buck.....:>)
Darkworks: We support the US military "We kick your #### and take your gas"
You know, seeing Breaktime's recent popularity and large increase of new posters over that past several months, it is really a wonder that only one larry-type has shown itself here.
It would seem probable that as time progresses others of the same leaning will end up showing themselves and the situation has yet to find itself a solution to remedy this unfortunate occurrence.
What are we going to do?
You forget haole already?View ImageGo Jayhawks
oh yeah.
here we go.
I myself, get a chuckle out of the discussions, mud slinging, crap throwing, whatever one may call this. If someone wants to know an answer to a serious question, ask. All the other stuff seen or read here should be left up to the participants involved. Want to play? Jump in. Don't? Go to another thread, or as I used to say, don't like what you see on the t.v.? turn it off.
Semper Fi
Bear
Shut up? ROFLOOO
Be a bear
Namaste
andy"As long as you have certain desires about how it ought to be you can't see how it is." http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
Notice that "guest" hasnt returned? Must be tongue tied.
a"As long as you have certain desires about how it ought to be you can't see how it is." http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
it's an individual prayer to the sphincter god , with a certain "guest:" in mind.... short but to the point...... it was good to talk to you .. i'll meander over to the stone company either tomorrow or beginning next week. i'll let you know from there.....
i
am
a
bear......... b
Edited 3/7/2003 5:19:27 PM ET by the bear
Gentle folk and kind sirs:
I have come to the understanding that there is a general leaning from the powers that be to eliminate or at least lessen the intensity of contention that of late has been boiling over here at Breaktime.
Regarding the individual in question, I believe it is only fitting and proper that we partakers of the vine follow the desires of 'them' and thus perhaps we will continue with them and possibly become us.
As much as the temptation to join the banter is there, I realize that in the long term it is not really advantageous to the site and those to come, to feed the flames that apparently the one in some way thrives on.
So with that in mind for the good of the community I elect to discontinue any communication with 'it' and will place a priority to avoid any confrontation, whether good or bad comments, in the hope the desired goal may be reached.
Thus I can say it is my recommendation to those who have ears to hear, to follow the lead of Taunton, bite the bottom lip, and transcend this beggarly element of negativity that attempts to adhere itself.
We are each on our own here as individuals and the actions we present will be our own. It may be possible to silence the intruder in a civil manner.
May we come and go in peace.
For crying out loud rez, I couldn't pass this up.
bite me__________________________________________
Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.
http://www.quittintime.com/
calvin.. sometimes a man's gotta say what a man's gotta say....Mike Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
you too smitty.
Howards Club H, next sat nite, last chance.
You're going north right?
Too bad, good drunk.__________________________________________
Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.
http://www.quittintime.com/
After reading the speech Rez wrote I have decided one thing at least if not further thoughts about it are in contention in my mind to voice opinion after reading his excerts.
He cleans up pretty good!
However it was probably Theodora that gave insight to his literary talents to bring to surface in his writings here today, thus to give her credit will probably be appropriate . So, I will be forced to take some of the compliment away from him only to give others the credit.
Tim Mooney
huh?.
Excellence is its own reward!
Pif... Rez is warming up the leagle jargon. Looks to be that he is changing professions.
expected from some.
no problemo.
shoot rez, now you got me all apologetic. What "some" are you inferring? I meant it as a short aside to the "what did he say" lengthy post. And of course, used the jovial bite me to ask the question.
Hey, us o-hi-ans gotta stick together.
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Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.
http://www.quittintime.com/
Roar!
Just a big world and nothing ever gets everything in one agreement.
does that mean i've been bamboozled......
I don't know. I'm not completely sold on bamboo floors yet.
you get the cookie(or bone) of the day award for L M A O .... THANKS bear
That was a good speech even though I commended you in joking manner . I guess this also means we have no need to go to war that we can be passive and turn the other cheek? It will get much better if we avoid the problem . Hmmm. It hasnt in over a year . This may be a dangerous situation also. Who can step up and gaurentee its not ? I did not speak for most of the time while you others did. When I did , I tried reasoning because silence has not been effective. I dont however agree with mental abuse that has went on that has made it look worse . So the next time someone has a hostage we should use the silent approach? Turn the other cheek when bin Laden strikes again? I dont agree. As long as someone is permitted to be here its free speech as long as one abides by the rules of Breaktime . He has been permitted to stay as he has responded in this post. Breaktime hasnt taken that away from him . What you suggest is disfellowship which I also dont agree with because it never solves anything . The Jehovas Witnesses use it and they are the only ones I know that use it to put someone in exile from their assosiation . They dont use it with the mentally ill that Im aware . I suggest you consider all sides of the problem for a conclusion of the answer . If Breaktime doesnt want someone here , it is up to them to decide . IMO.
Tim Mooney
Let me clear something up, Tim
Taunton has NOT allowed him to stay. At least once a day this week, he has re-registered with another new email. I can't confirm whether he is getting himself dozens of emails with various hosts or if he is stealing those emaiols from other web citizens. I'm not about to send him mail to certify this.
but you can check it out for yourselfd that he keeps coming in under different loggin names.
Click on his name above. You will see that he has been a member here since noon today
Click on the lowere left "visitors" tab
You will be able to enter "bobcat" in the find field
You will find that there are several bobcats listed.
Click on each one of them and you will see a different time of registration and a different number of posts totalled for each bobcat.
If he has replied to you, you recieved a notice that there has been a reply from so and so. I have seen at least four different ones, including bobcat 35 and bobcat 42.
The moderators tool for bannishment is "by email" or registration name. In the past, he has been known toi have stolen other person''s emails for this purpose.
He is here illegally right now - not by permission of Taunton. No need to tolerate him under that guise any more than we should tolerate illegfal aliemns sneaking through the border with forged green cards to throw bombs in public meetings.
I really want to agree with rez and all the internet advisors who say that the best way to deak with trolls is to ignore them but this guy is pulling poff criminal behaviour and needs stronger action. I say burn him. It wouldn't suprise me if Taunton is not having their legal beagles prepare a case against him already.
In saying this, I may have damaged their case by giving him warning in this post but I'm just not the type to sit back and let criminals have their way.
I don't get emotionally wound up about it either. I just do what I do, sometimes without even thinking about it, like taking out the trash in the morning. Nobody in the house really LIKES taking out the garbage, but it has to be done. So I do it as a simple matter of course. Sometimes, as you walk through the house with the garbage can, a little extra odor wafts through the house, but that's better than letting it stay to rot in place.
Be well, Tim - and rez too!
.
Excellence is its own reward!
Yep."There is no secret kid,You see his face you hit it!!!!"- Reid Simpson
>under different loggin names.
Which bypasses the Ignore feature each time, $%*&$&#$. For cases like this, that feature is a GREAT way to not get caught up in all the ugly drama.
If you put the mouse over the name in the TO or FROM line, but don't click on it the brower (or at least Netscape) shows the line to bring up the profile. That shows the actual login name.
For example yours shows uNAME=PIFIN while you nickname is piffin.
In this tread he was JUKEBOX15.
Thanks for pointing that out - big time saver!
I had to re-register as pifin when they switched to Prospero. I tried to loggin as Piffin and the software said that the name was already taken. It was too stupid to know that it was taken by me! LOL.
Excellence is its own reward!
Pointer over the name.
Right click.
Properties.
The way I see it as you have descibed it is all he has to do is switch his email name and remember the password he has been given. Then hes ready to registrar at Breaktime . I saw his post when I relpied to Rez. Since your last post to me looks like he has removed his post. Maybe you scared him. I had no idea that what you mentioned was happening as I dont follow him . I did try to go to his post to read his profile, but it was gone .
Tim Mooney
He has been leaving his profiles blank. At the top of the profile you'll see when he's registered and how many posts he's made. I think what he's done is made up a bunch of e-mails and registered with them so as soon as he's banned he can pop right back in. If only he spent this much effort on therapy. Another thing he can't stand is people who don't back off. If you call him on his veiled threats and various attempts at scaring people he backs off. He is definatley one you have to keep out in front of you and stay on the offensive with. Beat him down with aggression."There is no secret kid,You see his face you hit it!!!!"- Reid Simpson
Let him retreat to lick his wounds, so he can come back stronger and more prepared?"There is no secret kid,You see his face you hit it!!!!"- Reid Simpson
Give it up, Guy, you are just pouring gas on a lit fuse.
Yep, this problem hasn't gone away, using the let nature run it's course strategy. Besides he's promised to make me famous today. I wonder if he got his package from ACME yet so he can build his really cool invention to destroy us all?
"There is no secret kid,You see his face you hit it!!!!"- Reid Simpson
Edited 3/7/2003 6:41:32 PM ET by Gunner
rez your tact and insight are admirable, and plainly... correct, consider it done. bear
That was beautiful Rez, see you in the bar.
Tallk about your truck and it breaks down at a "this can't be a worse time"
Talking like that could be a bad Omen.
Then your handel can be changed to rez666.
Who is haole?
He was a previous contentious type who ended up being a troll type that I had forgotten about.
It would seem probable that as time progresses others of the same leaning will end up showing themselves and the situation has yet to find itself a solution to remedy this unfortunate occurrence.
What are we going to do?
I've been on various forums, newsgroups, etc. dating all the way back to early BBS days (y'know, about 10 years ago!). The simplest solution is always the best with trolls - ignore ignore ignore. This forum has a convenient button under "options" that does just that; it automatically nukes all posts by the troll so you don't have to see them. I usually give a troll three chances (like the Good Fairy did), then they get PLONK! into the killfile (ignore list).
A newsgroup I frequented for years had a pretty solid core group (like here), and whenever a troll popped their ugly nose in, everyone would plonk them and they'd be left ranting all to themselves. Very effective.
Don't feed the trolls.
K.
Sounds like good advice from a seasoned one.
I for one now announce a stavation diet for the present scenerio we are involved in.
Larry's a fun guy, but it looks like he's back in his cell for a bit.
There've been others, Helen Hellonwheels, Dickey was a early visitor, RJ the tape salesman was around a couple years back.
The vent wars weren't trolls, it was a difference of opinion/technique/science vs always done it this way.
A few nasty Saturday night drunks too.
Considering how many AH's there are in the world, very few show up here.
Joe H
What's a "troll"? I mean besides the guy who stands under the bridge when billy goat gruff goes over? I've posted several times, so I don't think I'm a "lurker." But I haven't introduced myself. Does that make me a "troll"? Please advise, as I am anxious to be neither lurker nor troll.
http://members.aol.com/intwg/trolls.htm
Well, that sounds like a description of my ex-wife.
Mine too
Troll is a michigander that lives below the bridge. (Mackinaw)
Jack of all trades and master of none - you got a problem with that?
shut up ...
I'm getting ready to go to bed. Am I famous yet?
Whale Oil Beef Hooked!
Since I'm already famous, I can go to bed now, right?.
Excellence is its own reward!
Hasbeen;
I looked at the maaps and I stil can't decide what kind of trees those are in the back yard. Maples maybe. Off to west it just seems to open field. The topo hs the elevation listed as 498 feet. The B&O RR is only about .7 miles to the east. We should be able to find the place okay. Okay?
Toy me...
"You know prospective clients read these boards, all of you that participate in this name calling, slander, ect help perpetuate the tarnished image of the construction industry. Grow up your not in high school anymore".
Do you consider yourself a "prospective client"?
Please reveal yourself so none of us makes the mistake of working for you?
I never ever let you off on your threats. You did it, we saw it, you can't deny it.
Hey, ah did I miss something today? My autograph still isn't worth anything? You promised to make me famous, now get to it. You've got until 10:30 then I'm turning in for the night.
"There is no secret kid,You see his face you hit it!!!!"- Reid Simpson
Yo - Gunner
don't mean to wake you up from your beauty sleep, but - he already made me famous! Why'd he leave you behind? Are you feeling hurt about it.
I'll share, if you want... Should I start a thread dedicated to you? Just say the word and I'll fame frame the flame for you..
Excellence is its own reward!
No thanks. I'd rather get my fifteen minutes of somewhere else. Like being caught on a homemade sex video doing it with Cindy Crawford, or someone like that. Especialy if she's screaming " Your tearing me apart!" at the top of her lungs."There is no secret kid,You see his face you hit it!!!!"- Reid Simpson
cindy crawford .... nah .... like crusin' in a packard. now selma hayak, penelope cruz. now where talkin'. make those fifteen count. man can i dream.....
p.s. who's reid simpson??
I'll take either one of those.
Reid Simpson is a hockey player who happens to be a pretty good pugilist on the ice. "There is no secret kid,You see his face you hit it!!!!"- Reid Simpson
Bear ya got that right .
Darkworks: We support the US military "We kick your #### and take your gas"
hey bob-o just for the sake of friendly banter why is this laundry nite on breaktime for you. is there a reason to cleanse....... or the yearn for camaradarie at the end of the week that overwhelming, i know the premise of this this is very cynical, but i'm curious ..... how about a fess-up.....bear
It seems more then a little stupid that the two posts he quotes are the ones that are positive for him. THe first one I offer a reprive, the second I suggest that he get help.(Which we all agree that he needs) Funny I didn't have to resort to threaten to murder people though did I?"There is no secret kid,You see his face you hit it!!!!"- Reid Simpson
larry , yur off yur meds, runnin in jerk mode...
Mike Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
That could be?
Larry use your head when you do that. Your trying to make a statement that you want to sound intimidating. Don't end it with a question mark. It sounds like your asking Mike if your off your meds. Just use a period. Or an exclamation point.
You miss 100% of the shots you never take."
Wayne Greztky
Hi JUKEBOX15.... Where's the bear and my free lunch.
How appropriate, With a jukebox, you just keep putting in a quarter and it keeps mindlessly playing the same tune.
"...down at the end of Lonely Street at
Heartbreak Hotel, I be so lonely....".
Excellence is its own reward!
That's the name he is using to get in.
Want the whole list?
george10764(wonder if that's his zip code? I'lll have to look it up later)
Bobcat120
Bobcat121
Bobcat26
Bobcat35
Bobcat42
Lights1001
Lemon211
cleaner8
Fantasy52
fliptop2
jukebox15
.
Excellence is its own reward!
What happened to '69'
After this seems to be a never ending circle.
well, he is stroking himself....
Excellence is its own reward!
well, he is stroking himself...
. Excellence is its own reward!
Piff
Problem is..he can't ever get himself to that blissful place most of us do.
Now how was that for being discreet?
Be an O
Namaste
Andy
"As long as you have certain desires about how it ought to be you can't see how it is." http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
Not none!
Be One
not many
.
Excellence is its own reward!
The extreme blistering must be causing extreme pain.
The extreme pain must be causing depression.
The depression must be causing despondency
The despondency must be causing the mind to lose it.
The lost mind must be causing behavioral disorders.
The behavioral disorders must be...........