Nice work Larry.
It’s great to see you post some of the fine work you do, it lends greatly to your creditable as a carpenter and rail installer. I think that if you would stay within your strengths, no one here could touch you.
It would have been good to see some of the installition shots with you using the tools you have invented for the purpose. Nothing speaks volumes for something like seeing it in action.
Keep the great pictures coming. . .
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Great pics, and post, Larry.
...that's not a mistake, it's rustic
Larry,
Now that you mention it. . . ;-)
That does look a “bit†awkward, kinda like having another thread under the post.
LAwrence
Horrible work.....If ya wanna learn how to do railing work you should ask.....KIDDING! Duh...Hey I know this spam dude thats posting here trying to hawk a kinda balluster layout tool. Seems most people can't stand him.....Can't figure out why.....actually he's his own worst enemy I think.
Hey Larry......Awesome job bro. I just don't get you but then again I don't get a whole lotta people.
BE confused
Namaste
andy
In his first interview since the stroke, Ram Dass, 66, spoke with great difficulty about how his brush with death has changed his ideas about aging, and how the recent loss of two old friends, Timothy Leary and Allen Ginsberg, has convinced him that now, more than ever, is the time to ``Be Here Now.''
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Larry,
Thats a good piece of work any way you look at it. But I think as you are a specialist, and I'm sure you and your son make an efficient team. I would imagine that even your jigs help you to accomplish your goal.
I don't think its inconceivable that it could be accomplished by two similarly motivated and trained individuals without your inventions. But maybe you could convince me otherwise.
If I'm not mistaken, your in the potomac area right? I'm about two hours from you in Central PA. I'll make you a deal. I'll buy the complete Larry system, for a hands on session on one of your jobs. Heck, I'll even film and edit for you on digital video.
I can probably get free in the next week or two. As a bonus, I can maybe report back to the rest of the forum on who the real Larry is. Let me know.
Tom
Larry
Good looking rail.
Glad to see you post what ya do, always like to see someones work.
Keep it up.
Doug
Sweet work Larry! You the first time I saw one of your posts on JLC I thought your name was Lenny and the name has stuck for me. Sorry about that, I'll try to keep Larry straight :-)
Someday I'll get into finish work. Right now, I'm having too much fun being a wood butcher framer.
Keep posting the pics. I love seeing them. Do you keep pics of your work? I have a digital camera and I take pics of most jobs and store them. It makes this line of work seem more like a hobby than a job.
Again, great work. Must be cool working with your son too. I work for my father. He is the G.C. and my brother works for him too running the office. It feels great to build a product as a family.
Looks great Larry! It's good that your son can work with you.
Two of my sons work with me and we all get along great.
This may sound like a dumb question.
I tried a simple hand rail with a return to the wall on each end and had a heck of a time getting the pieces sanded to match. Is there a trick to making the bends in the hand rail match the run? Do you guys use a Dremmel or something ?
Bob
"Rather be a hammer than a nail"
I assume you mean finishing the joint between a rail and fitting, such as a qtrturn?
Far be it for me to intrude on the contrarian stairrailian's thread, but it doesn't look like he has a clue, unless you want to pork newel placement and clip joints together, then sand said joints like a maniac on crack.
I'm not an expert, but I try to glue/bolt the joints together so the waste comes off an easy part of the profile to work. So with a standard rail profile I will line up the side beads, the hardest part to fit. One small point, I only do stairs if I supply the stock, and I only use Coffman parts. I know, they aren't the best, but they are close, and far better than anything that is readily availible around here, (read in stock). That gets me in the ballpark, and I chisel the fittings by hand, to very very close. I finish sand them to braille quality with either a hard or soft pad 1/4 sheet sander, with self stick wrapped over the edge of the pad.
I've never had a complaint, but you have to be careful sanding some woods, and some fittings. Oak easings/goosies come to mind for victims of over sanding.
I don't own a Dremel, but you can buy a set of riffler files, or you could use the Fein tool, but a few sharp chisels is about all you need.
Stan has a neat jig for drilling railbolts, that strengthens and locates the joint with dowels. Maybe he will post a picture of the jig again, but he will have to tell you how that works, and if you get some grain drift when drilling.
I bought curved ends that attach underneath with a bolt and plug system. Nice tight fit but I don't think it was a good material match.
So you guys cut and glue all your own pieces on site?
Bob
"Rather be a hammer than a nail"
I'd be long gone as soon as I saw you finish a joint. Heck, my mentally challenged friend, I would walk as soon as I saw a newel go in.
Hey, why don't we be completely honest, I would walk as soon as I saw you walk in the door, and that is a fact.
Pick any one of those swooped joints and take a close up, come on, just for laughs. How about the newels? Geesh, on a stairway that large there must be one close up you can take. Impress me with the baluster fitting.
Just admit you are a speedfreak hack and I will get off your back. Stand back and take fuzzy pics, pose and tell us all about the shortcuts.
Please, I'm not falling for the Larry lovefest, go find a corner and shave your shaft with broken glass, and stick some wax up your hole.
Hey Qtrmeg,
Why take the time to be a jerk when there is so much work to do?
Matt
Actually, I’ve had something on my mind for several weeks now. During the memorial day weekend Stan posted a picture taken from his helicopter of one of the homes he built the stairs for. This homeowner had an American flag on top his roof, the problem was it wasn’t properly display, and quite a few here at BT criticized. So my question to everyone if someone here at BT is quoting Jesus Christ and doesn’t have it completely right ,why isn’t it corrected?
Edited 6/18/2003 4:05:58 PM ET by Larry Martin
Matt,
Noticed that you are fairly new to the forums. Had a similar initial reaction to the first couple of Qtrmeg messages I read. Fortunately I held my tongue and stuck around for a while.
There is a lot of history behind everyone's reactions to this particular multi-faceted poster. You might ought to know that Matt (Qtrmeg) has been in the compromising position of being the only breaktimer for miles sticking his neck out to get everyone off Larry's back a time or two.
Two sides to every story and right, wrong or otherwise, Matt has a pretty good reason for his attitude. Stick around, ten bucks says you have a "friend" smiley face by his name within the year.
Some folks just have a way of expressing themselves very concisely. Qtrmeg is far and away the most gifted person I know in the art of putting it straight up in 10 words or less.Kevin Halliburton
"I believe that architecture is a pragmatic art. To become art it must be built on a foundation of necessity." - I.M. Pei -
"There is a lot of history behind everyone's reactions to this particular multi-faceted poster. You might ought to know that Matt (Qtrmeg) has been in the compromising position of being the only breaktimer for miles sticking his neck out to get everyone off Larry's back a time or two."
Multifaced poster, your implying I'm the only one that operates sometimes with several different screen names here. Your also implying Qtrmeg has try to be some kind friend, that very well could be the case behind the scenes, although it's not something I'm aware of.
",..........I'll let the accusation stand unanswered and let others determine if you nailed me or not."
If that's the case, then why are you trying to influence others like Mattohio1?
Edited 6/18/2003 5:04:10 PM ET by Larry Martin
Matt,
You should know the history behind all this before you should comment.Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the ark, Professionals build the Titanic.
One thing for sure Matt, there won't be a lack of people telling you how and what to think.Hell, they even have a part-time preacher that will prey for you.
Edited 6/18/2003 7:35:40 PM ET by Larry Martin
That's OK for a rough hollow grind but it'll never give a fine shaving edge. If that's how you sharpen a chisle, it's no wonder you don't like them on your railings. None of your steel has any temper left probably.
All these years and you still don't know how to sharpen a chisle? You've been denied one of the finest pleasures of carpentry, a good sharp blade.
Too bad you don't have any good pictures of your fast joinery to show Qtrmeg.
Excellence is its own reward!
Larry: I am impressed. I have said several times here that you could run rings around me with the amount of railing you can install in a day. I could not do that amount of railing in three times the amount of time you took.
Larry...good to see you posting...stay positive..dont "tread" on anyone and ignore negative posts. It is refreshing to see your work posted.
Hi Stan,
I hope life is a bit better to you and the family nowadays.
I can't agree with you more about Larry staying away for negative posts and comments.
Larry,
Let your work speak for itself and let the naysayers well, just talk. View Image
Edited 6/11/2003 10:41:08 AM ET by Joe Fusco
Did I miss something here? Since when do we slam a guy for posting quality craftsmanship? I think some apologies are in order.
If you don't have anything nice to say..............Well.........don't say anything........or just go to bed and read FHB.
You know? No one is perfect in this forum , and there are some more talented than others, but how bout we keep it a friendly place to exchange helpful information. Bob
"Rather be a hammer than a nail"
Pro
cause if that were to happen, some couldnt feel better than others.
You know, blow out the other persons candle to make yours look brighter.
Doug
Joe: Thanks for the comment. Life is good again. Jeff is doing fantastic and we are all so thankful that 2003 is a year to enjoy life again.
You started out with trashing the idea of using chisles. The finest railing ties I have seen were fined with a sharp tools shaving and carving.
Then you come on trying to give advice how to sharpen a chisle without making that advice complete so you mislead young guys trying to learn, until I called you on it. A craftsman with only one chisle and a thirty year old stone? OK, if you say so.
You other gys can continue with this love larry fest for another couple weeks until he bites you each in the butt and you get to see him for what he is. Have fun in the meantime.
Excellence is its own reward!
Great, I just got slammed from some of the finest people on this site because I got baited by an idiot.
History is no excuse, I am sorry for trashing Larry. I really am. The pic forum is off limits, and I screwed up.
"In this rail system there are two joints that's not typical, maybe you'd like to point them out for us?"
I assume you are talking about the balcony rail angles, but I don't often know what you are talking about, and I sure as hell don't want to look at that mess again.
Now that you have established that you are among the FHB elite, perhaps you could spare some time to write an article.
I think this thread said it all for me. It is just time for me to go.
I don't do happy, for the sake of happy. And if I have to pose to fit in, I will just flip out.
So, thanks all, you've been great.
Hey Larry, before you put another one of those homemade restraining orders on me, that's a complicated rail and it looks pretty dang good to me.
I'm all for change for the better, you are definitely the most persistent son of a gun I have ever seen.
I agree with the way Qmeg lines up his joints (handrails not doobies guys) but I'm with you on the chisel thing. Once, over two years, I installed 60 sets of stairs and railings (nothing at that time as complicated you show), never pulled out a chisel once. All sanders and sandpaper. I missed the deleted chisel sharpening flurry, but when I've got to sharpen a chisel on the job, it's all belt sander...and I can hollow grind on it too.
I would also love to see some close ups of your rail connections. And how do you attach your wall rosettes to your rails?
And are those newels fastened with the keylock ramps? Can't say as I like the look of that double tread thingy on the balcony, but I'm not the one forking out the cash on the job, either.
So here's hoping you don't turn rabid again, and damn you're fast.
EliphIno!
OK, 2 rail bolts in ####3 1/2" newel. How do you orient them? Perpendicular or parallel to the rail? And whatabout the angled rails?
I know all you do is rails, how do that the previously installed nosing is solid before you've cut and then crank down your newels?
You're the only just railing guy I've ever heard of. If the guys before you don't get the treads and risers right, I can see a lot of problems. What's their incentive to help you out?
EliphIno!
Larry
You absolutly crack me up.....sorry to get off the subject of railings but, you go from up hill to down dale and up again.
Was just waiting for you to go on a rant here tween Piff and QT and you kept it steady. Good work dude...on keeping it steady I mean as well as yer stairs.
I dont need close ups to see you know yer shi!
Good goin' dude and it aint a Larry love fest....Its just tryin' to get along here and you seem to be working it out. I love to see people working on themselves!
We all have our issues and those that don't think they do.....REALLY do.
Keep up the good work and I'd love to see an article by you in FHB cause you do some seriously nice work and thats "really" what its about, not retoric.
BE well brother
Namaste
andy
In his first interview since the stroke, Ram Dass, 66, spoke with great difficulty about how his brush with death has changed his ideas about aging, and how the recent loss of two old friends, Timothy Leary and Allen Ginsberg, has convinced him that now, more than ever, is the time to ``Be Here Now.''
http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
Edited 6/12/2003 6:51:16 AM ET by Andy Clifford(Andybuildz)
Thats the same type of bolt we use for newels. Do you use them for rail to newel connections? Thats overkill!
I use a 4" hex head timberlock for rail to newel.
Post to post rail systems are abundant around here.
Tom
Just think, you could have silenced all your critics two years ago by posting positive stuff like this instead of all that other crap.
now somebody might actually learn something from you...
Excellence is its own reward!
Piff
Seems kinda unlike you to keep going at it.
Sometimes people change..really.
You never know whats on a persons mind. Is it really worth the fight?
Personally I'm sick of hearing about Irac.....kinda sick of hearing about all the fights between us all.
This one here should be pretty easy to work through. C'mon man.
Give peace a chance.
Be forgiving....youre to smart not to.
NAMASTE!!!!!!
andy
In his first interview since the stroke, Ram Dass, 66, spoke with great difficulty about how his brush with death has changed his ideas about aging, and how the recent loss of two old friends, Timothy Leary and Allen Ginsberg, has convinced him that now, more than ever, is the time to ``Be Here Now.''
http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
Larry,
It looks like with a little help from your friends you were able to return from the “brink†sort of speak. I know you a long time and we have spoken quite often in the past and I’d just like to say that it’s far better speaking with you in threads like this then in “those†others.
The greatest advice I can offer at this time is just not to respond to anyone who says anything negative to you again. Secondly, don’t mention Andy Engel’s name again, he will never see things your way and he doesn’t have too. So why bother with him at all. I think your much better then all that.
If you follow those simple steps people here will learn a great deal from you and you will never have to deal with the “others†or Mr. Engel again. From where I’m sitting that looks pretty good!
P.S. Post some shots using your tools. I think it would be just great to see them in action.
Edited 6/12/2003 9:58:10 PM ET by Joe Fusco
Larry: I am with Joe. Lets see some more pictures of your tools and other railing jobs. I consider you one of the top railers around. I do not know how you do it so fast except you have done it so long, its just second nature.
Keep the posts coming...and just dont respond to any negative comments. Thats how I try to conduct myself and just look how positive you and I are to each other now.
Your work is outstanding. Stan
Larry,
One of the hardest things I’ve endured at this site is reading most of the diatribe that has been sent your way. Unfortunately it was being sent by people I, in general respect. Why some of those people choose to take their positions is up to them. I know exactly what happened in the “early days†and the only “crime†and that word is way to strong, was you only wished to spread the word about your inventions.
I’ve always thought your tools were innovative and useful; why others didn’t think the same is really up to them and unimportant at this time.
You’re a good guy Larry and no one can take that from you.
Edited 6/12/2003 11:18:03 PM ET by Joe Fusco
Joe,
I've never attacked him for his inventions or his craftsmanship. It's some other things where he attacked me personally at a time when I was trying to help him out, negotiating things here. His "real crime" runs much deeper but you probably missed it all.
But I'm willing to let that ride and not detail again as long as he keeps on this positive track. Life has other stairs to climb.
And I'm apologizing heere to you and others for bringing in a negative attitude. I'd have been far ahead to have done the same thing with his posts here that I did with his e-mail to me - dumped and ignored it. .
Excellence is its own reward!
Piffin,
There will always be your story, his story and the truth. Replying to my post is interesting enough as I didn’t mention anyone in particular. . .
I think you’re a good guy too and whether I believe you are right or wrong is irrelevant. What is relevant is that you and Larry, and everyone else, are willing to make the leap to the other side. . . This thread looked like a good place to start.
P.s. Those were a great looking set of stairs.
View Image
Edited 6/13/2003 7:26:55 AM ET by Joe Fusco
Larry: I know that most of the time I spend on a railing job is spent with my head tilted about 7 degrees ...just like the RCA dog. The actual work on a railing doesnt take that long..its the figuring where to cut,,what degree to cut it...etc. That is where you pull away from everyone else. You dont waste anytime tilting your head...except at the miter box.
Larry, I hope you didn't take my questions as badgering. I've done rails and I can't imagine working after someone else on a set of stairs. I'm not sure I would take as much trouble to get newel lines centered, or treads and risers plumb and level and evenly spaced for the balusters to look good, if I knew I wasn't doing the railings. What am I saying, I know I wouldn't...
I would have taken a week to do those rails, and I wouldn't even know what to do with an inexperienced helper. It is cool working with your kids (ok, my kids). I used to be able to trick them into sanding, but, man they got tired of that when they hit their twenties!
My question about the angled rails was about the swiveling over the post fittings with removable caps (LJ Smith), but that's why I wanted some close ups of everything. Newel bases, too, before plugging.
 I know all you do is rails, how do -you know- that the previously installed nosing is solid before you've cut and then crank down your newels? Sorry, I left a couple of words in the original question. If that previously installed landing tread isn't rock solid, you've gotta have some problems when you crank the nuts down in your newels. Jeez, that sounds like some kinda perverted squirrel talk<G>
Doode, you're ok without all those chips on your shoulders, and you've gotta have Timex innards-take a lickin' and keep on tickin'.
Oh yeah, where'd you get that rail bolt wrench? And what's on the other end?
So, make nice with Piffin, I see he has with you, we need more old timers with real experience...too many kids with Time/Life subscriptions dishing out advice<G>
I am an admirer of your tenacity, but I hope you understand, I still think you're totally nuts<G>more of that squirrel talk LOL
EliphIno!
If you've ever actually read what I've really written to you from the heart in the past, you know there's never been a need for me to forgive the person you are. It's the deeds and words that needed correcting. I can't hold it against you that you have "always been two screws short of a half of deck.LOL "
now here's a compliment for you - I've never met anyone as stubborn as I am - until you! Can we agree on that?
Excellence is its own reward!
I'm glad to read that, especially from two very Talented MEN. Well said Gentlemen!
I'm a very STUBBORN person myself. Growing up and quite a few fights making some enemies. The best feeling I had was when I was a bouncer and ran into a few of those Enemies. Once we started to talk, we became good friends and that was a Great feeling to make Friends with the Enemy and have them watching my back in case there was trouble.
Every time I heard their name mentioned or they came in after that, they brought a smile to my face, not a GRIN and I would by them a drink.
There's so much Talent and Knowledge around here that it is great to see pictures of everyones work and everyone discussing their work.
Keep it up Gentlemen.
Joe Carola
Joe,
You? Stubborn? Naww.
Ok, you cut an over the post newel that sits on top of a landing tread...even better (or worse, depending on the installer), on a landing with a 90° turn, so the nosings are mitered. When you do the tighten up, don't things move? Got any closeups of that kinda stuff?
I try to notch all my newels in...pop out all the skirts, set all the newels, then run the skirts.
You've got a tough job...
And, Piffin is being a whole lot nicer to you than he is to me<G>
EliphIno!
Hey Larry, How about post the link to your website or email it if you prefer. I'd like to take a look at your invention. It kind of fasinates me.
Mark
Let me do Larry a favor and keep him from breaking any more rules here...
http://www.accutools.net/index.htm.
Excellence is its own reward!
Personally, I don't think anyone ever tried to undermine your credibility, but since I know fact that it isn't me, I got nothing to shake, quake, or worry about.
Anyway, back to the subject at hand...
I'm listening
Excellence is its own reward!
Come on Lawrence, everybody seems to be forgiving and forgetting. We're all sharing the same playground, it's breaktime, relax<G>
EliphIno!
Larry,
Keep the pictures and tips coming. Nice work.
Happy Fathers Day.
Joe Carola
Would you guys mind fashioning a broom or two out of some of those olive branches you've been passing around. We need 'em over in the tools thread. Someone got excited by all this attention and messed all over the "What tool did you buy today" thread again.
Some folks just can't seem to control themselves. Especially when their behavior is solicited. All for peace, live and let live and all that but repeatedly defecating on sacred ground just for the sheer joy of being annoying is not the act of a peace-maker.
Talented? No doubt, maybe even smart. A member dedicated to the betterment of this forum? I don't believe the evidence supports that conclusion. I had low to moderate hopes this thread was indicative of a new approach from all of us - including Larry. Oh well, maybe on the next round...
Party with Larry all you want. Just remember - somebody has to clean up the mess and larry is determined to keep them busy. Sure wish he would give me a reason or two to develop some respect for him. I'd really like to try but the tools thread thing, besides the litany of abuse to virtually every single rule on the forum, just ain't doin' it for me.
Kevin Halliburton
"I believe that architecture is a pragmatic art. To become art it must be built on a foundation of necessity." - I.M. Pei -
Hate to say I told ya so...
But I told ya so...
Kevin Halliburton
"I believe that architecture is a pragmatic art. To become art it must be built on a foundation of necessity." - I.M. Pei -
And someone remove all my postings from this thread again.
If you are using that as your excuse it doesn't fly. They were still here when you hosed the tools thread last night.
I couldn’t give a rats a$$ about your respect
Larry, I'm fully aware that respect is a trivial thing to you so your jab is hardly news to my ears. Post all the pics of your work you want. I admired every one of them and appreciated your general tone in this whole thread. Apparently others did too.
However, as long as you are acting like a juvenile schizophrenic with multiple personality disorder in 99% of what you post I'm 100% behind Taunton's decision to toast you - good, bad and ugly posts alike.
May the best man win... and Larry, I really hope you'll start acting like the best man a little more often. It actually seemed to be working for you... Good thread.
Kevin Halliburton
"I believe that architecture is a pragmatic art. To become art it must be built on a foundation of necessity." - I.M. Pei -
"If you are using that as your excuse it doesn't fly. They were still here when you hosed the tools thread last night."
That might have been the case with your computer, but not mine. All my postings in this discussion were removed yesterday sometime in the morning. That's the only reason I started up again in " what tool did you buy today".
"Larry, I'm fully aware that respect is a trivial thing to you ................. " Notting could be more untrue. At the same time respect is a two-way street, and not one-sided. There's several people here at BT that I have the highest regard for. At the same time there's one person who uses scripture out of the new Testament Bible to help whole himself up and because of some of stands this person has taken,has shown me he's nothing more than a educated hypocrite.
"May the best man win... and Larry, I really hope you'll start acting like the best man a little more often. It actually seemed to be working for you... Good thread."
The fact is I've already won, even though this posting will probably be removed before others read it.
Well, if Piffin can post a link to your web site I can preserve one message for you. Not sure if the new testament scholar you're referring to is me or not but if it is I'll let the accusation stand unanswered and let others determine if you nailed me or not.
Maybe you have won - over me any way. I've broken a determined resolve twice in posting messages to you here.
Kevin Halliburton
"I believe that architecture is a pragmatic art. To become art it must be built on a foundation of necessity." - I.M. Pei -
Edit: Larry's Reply...
" ....................... I've broken a determined resolve twice in posting messages to you here."
Let's take this one first,if it says one thing about you as an individual, your own person, and that in itself commands respect.
"Not sure if the new testament scholar you're referring to is me or not.........................." No, not at all. actually, I didn't read your tagline until now.
Thanks but I.M. Pei is not a promenant new testament figure. I have however been pretty up front in several places regarding my Christian faith and the fact that I'm a part time preacher. Thought you might have been eluding to that.
Edited 6/18/2003 3:48:58 PM ET by wrecked angle
"......................and the fact that I'm a part time preacher."
Your going to love this. Years ago back in the '60s the very first builder I worked for,had a part-time preacher, that also worked as a carpenter. One of the houses we worked on, had a young girl there probably somewhere around 15, very well developed. This part-time preacher was beside himself to the point even touched her breast. Keep in mind at the time this guy was in his late 30s. Don't get me wrong, I love women's as much as the next guy, I just don't need some part-time preacher showing me how.
Edited 6/18/2003 5:25:10 PM ET by Larry Martin
I don't know about all the rest of this mumbo jumbo, but this made me laugh.
Don't get me wrong, I love women's as much as the next guy, I just don't need some part-time preacher showing me how.
Larry, I honestly have no idea what to make of you. When are we makin' that video?Tom
"When are we makin' that video?"
Tom,
I have a few houses coming up in about two weeks that would give us the right amount of detail. But there's something we need to discuss first, and that's copyrights on the video. This will have to be in writing between us before any taping began. We can work this out through e-mail if you like.
That's actually a true story about the part-time preacher, may be he should think about going full time. LOL
I'm just curious about something you mentioned. I'm not judging or looking to flame/be flamed. I thought that all true Christians were preacher/teachers of the same message Christ preached/taught. I thought that was a commandment Christ gave and that is what proves that someone is a true Christian. In the first century, during the lives of the apostles, there wasn't a paid clergy or any distinction between preachers and non preachers. Every Christian was a preacher/teacher. That is attested to in secular history. What has changed since then?
I'm not looking to start a debate or argument with you or anyone else here, I'm just curious as to your answer. I mean YOUR answer, not anyone else's. I'm always interested in other people's viewpoints. I'm telling you, I've found it to be stupid to discount others' perspectives on things. That is my only motivation for posing this question. More than once, I've learned something by asking questions and considering (not debating or arguing) the answer I get.
By the way, where did you come up with your screen name? At the time I joined Breaktime, I couldn't think of anything remotely interesting to use, so I used my name. Now I wish I had put some thought into it. Everyone else has cooler names than me :-)
What the HE!! is going on around here?
Go away for the evening and comeback and find all this crap.
Larry Larry Larry, what we gona do wif ya?
Well, gotta say it was good for a while, albeit a short while.
Doug
"Larry Larry Larry, what we gona do wif ya?" LOL
Maybe its because of what happened today with my grinder
The only reason I showed the picture about what happened today with the grinder, was so anyone considering using this thing, can see how dangerous it can be. In eight years, that's the second time I hurt myself , one time I ground the skin off my thumb knuckle down to the meets.
Edited 6/18/2003 9:26:37 PM ET by Larry Martin
Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the ark, Professionals build the Titanic.
Larry, you've got brothers named Culey and Moe, dontcha?
I don't get why you have to dump in a place that you seem to want to live.
Sayanara doode, it's time to ignore some more... EliphIno!
"I don't get why you have to dump in a place that you seem to want to live."
The problems I get really piss off when they remove my post and it seems like the only way to fight back.
Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the ark, Professionals built the Titanic.
Woe, that was an abrupt turn on an already interesting thread...
Your question is an excellent one Tim and I couldn't agree with your assesment of every Christian's duty more. I am really busy this morning but look forward to responding a little later today when I get out from under some of my present workload.
Since you are primarily interested in my answer and don't want to get something started here, I will respond to your question via personal e-mail rather than here on the forum.
Here is a link where I last answered the question about my screen name:
http://forums.taunton.com/tp-BREAKTIME/messages?msg=29295.1Kevin Halliburton
"I believe that architecture is a pragmatic art. To become art it must be built on a foundation of necessity." - I.M. Pei -
I'd like to hear the answer also.
Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the ark, Professionals built the Titanic.
What religion are you?
It's not the one that handles rattlesnakes is it?
Nope - save that activity for Breaktime...
I am deeply humbled by the presence of so many newly signed up members anxious to discuss the Word. Too bad I'm too busy to respond to all these questions. Makes me wish I had time to take up a collection and start a revival.
Kevin Halliburton
"I believe that architecture is a pragmatic art. To become art it must be built on a foundation of necessity." - I.M. Pei -
CAG,
That is the smartest thing I've ever heard you say! I'm... well, I'm speachless!
Well, said and worth repeating...
Kevin Halliburton
"I believe that architecture is a pragmatic art. To become art it must be built on a foundation of necessity." - I.M. Pei -