I am going to be adding some recessed lighting in a kitchen with a ceiling height of 8′-4″. The kitchen is rougnly 12 feet x 11 feet. The 12 foot wall is where the sink, stove and cabinets will be. I am planning to go with three 6″ recessed w/ 60w r30 bulbs on the cabinet side of the room about 40″ from that wall. On the ohter side of the room I am going to install 2 more (there is a bump out in one corner hence only 2 lights on that side) also spaced 40″ from the wall. that should give me about 52″ between them. should I push them out closer to the walls or am I on target. I know it’s incorrect and a common mistake to take a 12′ room and divide it into three 4′ sections because you get dark walls. The spacing from the wall to the first light is usually about half the distance between lights right? Could anyone help me sort out my mess? I just don’t want dark spots. |
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R-30 isn't much spread.
Most - I get good lighting with from 30" to 40" spacing if doing a full room.
But you have a different situation.
#1 problem is that this is a kitchen with cabinets. at 40" ouit, you are creating a shadow from your head and shoulders on your wort space/hands. With a typical 12" wall cab and 25" top you want the can lights at about 20" from finished wall surface.
Then fro distance apart, I like to compliment the wall cabinet layout, centering on a door or pair of doors if I can do it and maintain sopacing consistantly across that wall.
In a hallway I found that 38" OC works good with an 8' cieling. with a higher cieling or greater radius light, you can spread out more, but may need higher wattage
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Thanks. Thats excellent advice. I had not thought the shadow I will be casting on the work surface.
There are three kinds of lighting; task, ambient, and decorative.Yours is primrily task lighting, secondrily ambient.Task must always be oriented to the task it applies to. ( like form follows function)Something to keep in mind for the future.
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What is the difference between "ambient" and "decorative" lighting?
Maybe if I drink another cup of coffee, it'll become self evident? but right now, kinda going Hmmm?
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ambient is general lighting that is just there for general non-speccific loations and purposes, like a bedroom cieling light or the light that just happens to be in the room from having windows in the day.Decorative - have you seen some of those fancy hotels that have lightsa on the ground, hidden in the bushes and projecting vertially to amplify every architechtural feature?Or a wall-wash eyeball light in the cieling pionting at a piece of art? Many lights are combo, but with a primary and secondary purpose. For instance, if I place a can light for task lighting as in the original here over the ccoutertop space, but center it an appropriate distncce on a nice wall cabintet, it becomes decorative also, as it creates shadow and light on the raise dpanel door there
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I agree with Pif about distance from the wall over counters and cabinets.
I think your lighting plan is really minimal (or maybe you didn't tell the entire story).
I'd suggest using halogens in 4" cans rather than the 60w bulbs in 6" cans. The 6" cans are better for area lighting and not as good for work space, IMO.
I'd also highly recommend under cabinet lighting, if you haven't already planned it.
More lights, with more options, with more types of light, with dimmers switches... you'll be happy later.
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There will be under cabinet lights.