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   BobKovacs | Jul 24, 2005 11:43pm | #1

   Probably not- you'd be relying on the glue bond, which may not be worth much.  Better to sister another joist along side the notched one- the longer the better.

   Bob

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   reganva | Jul 25, 2005 12:02am | #2

   My thought (maybe I'm off base) was that the top of the joist is under compression.  Therefore, if I jacked it up a bit and stuck a tight fitting block in there it would transfer the compression along the top of the joist.

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   Mac2 | Jul 25, 2005 01:56am | #3

   I was taught to sister any joist with a notch/crack with at least one added piece. Problem with a notch is that the corners, if cut at 90 degree angles, can crack at some point, filled or not. A rounded notch is a bit stronger at resisting cracking.

   I decided to stop taking life so seriously, it is, after all, only temporary.
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   dIrishInMe | Jul 25, 2005 02:11am | #4

   The normal way would be to sister something.  It doesn't necessarily have to run the full length of the damaged member.  Cut 2 strips of 3/4" plywood 9" x 4'.  Nail a piece to either side of the joist using 8 common.  Put a nail about every 8". 
    

   Matt
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   reganva | Jul 25, 2005 02:57am | #5

   That's an easy fix, thanks.

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   Piffin | Jul 25, 2005 05:57am | #6

   I think you were right at first. The compresson is taken up by a block, if fitted tight enough, but then re-inforce with Matt's sisters 

    

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   DanH | Jul 25, 2005 05:48pm | #12

   They're pretty hefty broads are they?

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   Piffin | Jul 25, 2005 08:05pm | #13

   LOL, I thought you is-spelled boards until I looked back to see what had I written 

    

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   rjw | Jul 25, 2005 06:18am | #7

   Notch? Did someone say notch?

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   dIrishInMe | Jul 25, 2005 01:33pm | #8

   Got a good smile outa that one...

    Matt

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   JerBear | Jul 25, 2005 01:51pm | #9

   Yikes! Good one Bob,
   I go with what Piffin says, do the block and sisters together. Make sure the block is real tight, otherwise it's ineffective.

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   PeterJ | Jul 25, 2005 05:28pm | #10

   The same craftsman that did the "header modification" must have done that nice wiring job!PJ

   Everything will be okay in the end.  If it's not okay, it's not the end. 

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   Soultrain | Jul 25, 2005 05:45pm | #11

   That can't be real can it?

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   rjw | Jul 27, 2005 01:47am | #15

   Saw that "modification" just a couple of days ago.That beam was under the setback second floor front bedroom front wall, you know, the one carrying the loads from the 2nd floor roof and part of the load of the projecting garage roof.No sticker on the garage doors or opener, so probably installed by the homeowner or a "talented handyman."

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   Soultrain | Jul 27, 2005 05:51am | #16

   Man, that is just unbelievable.  Handyman, homeowner or not, it's amazing to me that anyone would think "Hey, this big huge beam is in the way - and I can't think of any reason why there would be a big huge beam, so I'll just cut it in half..."

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   JohnSprung | Jul 26, 2005 09:39pm | #14

   Wow.  I bet that's just the tip of an iceberg.  You probably have a whole gallery of structural, electrical, and plumbing horrors.  Well worth whole new threads for each.

    

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